urhookedfish 12 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 High guys, just want to know what peoples thoughts are on tuna oil, how important is it in a burley slick for attracting snapper and Mullies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4THALOVE 45 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 its killer for gar cheers 4THA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenton 637 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 its killer for gar cheers 4THAThats all i use it for. cheers brenton 4THALOVE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 High guys' date=' just want to know what peoples thoughts are on tuna oil, how important is it in a burley slick for attracting snapper and Mullies.[/quote']For snapper, I think if there in the area and on the chew ya don't need burley. If fishing over no structure as some do at night in close I would use it.For mullies in a boat situation I reakon it would be a great asset but as for beach fishing in surf type conditions I think it's effect would be more debatable?The hit and miss nature of mullies in particular makes it hard to judge effectiveness.Utimately I think that it is more a matter of right bait, right place and right time rather than burley practices. Available baitfish populations also attracted to your burley would also play a big factor I reakon.Maybe others have another view but off the top of my head that's mine.TB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urhookedfish 12 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 My thoughts are where the ruggers go the bigger snapper go.So im thinking that if used off the rocks for example if just a few ruggers get wind of it and head in close for a look then the chances of the bigger fish following them are greater. Especially if when they get within range they are feeding on burley peices like pilchards etc. So Im thinking its got to be a good plus?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack. 10 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 UHF, I think burley is used a lot differently nowadays. The burleying theory still makes a lot of sense, so far as attracting fish. Ie, you bring the little ones and the predators will come and the big predators in due course. Trouble I find is that I like to use pilchard baits (exclusively for just about everything if conditions allow), and sometimes burleying just means your baits are going to be picked apart by the littlies. I reckon this problem is compounded landbased this time of year with the abundance of puffers, trumpeters, and an assortment of other undesirables.I guess you are all over the fact that many successful boaties rely more on the sounder for the knobbies these days rather than the buckets of oil and fish frames of the past.Still, there is room for burley and I think the best example is the tommies &gar in the surface slick of oil and.grains. (magic for.snook appearances out the back as per the burley purist philosophy.... works a treat.I sometimes burley for school mulloway. Depending on the tide and the presence of undesirables .Having said all of this, I'm yet to catch a kept snapper that didn't have cubed pilchard in its guts from its travels up our burley trail ;)And to properly answer your question, I DONT think tuna oil is a must, but.if you insist on setting a trail, you ought to have oil in your mix, be it from the fish, tuna oil, or whatever oily substance you have to stick down deep and stink up your chunks as they drift away advertising a free feed ;)Good luck with your quest for a landbased Red mate... Chances are a nice mulloway or hammer/bronzie are on the cards for a second place finish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 My thoughts are where the ruggers go the bigger snapper go.So im thinking that if used off the rocks for example if just a few ruggers get wind of it and head in close for a look then the chances of the bigger fish following them are greater. Especially if when they get within range they are feeding on burley peices like pilchards etc. So Im thinking its got to be a good plus??You're really geting worried about the next Sydney Mardis Gras arent you urh :evil: urhookedfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I DONT think tuna oil is a must' date=' but.if you insist on setting a trail, you ought to have oil in your mix, be it from the fish, tuna oil, or whatever oily substance you have to stick down deep and stink up your chunks as they drift away advertising a free feed [/quote']My thoughts too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
force 0 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 When has tuna ever been apart of a snappers diet. Why not just use fish sauce, can get it for $10 for 4 Litre available from asian shopping centres verses $40-50 for tuna oil from tackle shops urhookedfish, trihull, 4THALOVE and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 When has tuna ever been apart of a snappers diet. Why not just use fish sauce' date=' can get it for $10 for 4 Litre available from asian shopping centres verses $40-50 for tuna oil from tackle shops[/quote']Thats what you use Force Could be a good alternative once they start banning Tuna oil for gar in case a tuns up :whistle: There's way to many cultures that would be upset if they banned fish sauce too :pinch: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
force 0 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 a hell of alot cheaper put in a plastic jar with small holes in the lid. Then in the burly pot it goes trihull, 4THALOVE and afishyfish 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal 480 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I normally use chicken pellets for mullet,gar,and tommies,make it up into a nice mash then add some tuna oil.Works well, but one day forgot the tuna oil and guess what? caught heaps of fish ,actually no different to when I add it.It can come in handy, a trick I use when fishing for gar when they are touchy is to soak a bit of bread in it,then put it in the burley float,the bread just acts like a sponge to leak the tuna oil into the water,the gar follow its source not actually filling up on any burely.Under the right conditions it works a treat,but can work against you landbased when the slick drifts away with tide or wind taking the fish with it.As for snapper and mullies from a boat...err no idea.Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigred 0 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 i put pilchards oil in my mix urhookedfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surf_94 1 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I always try to use an oil based berley when fishing for either bait fish or mulloway. I too am a firm believer that IF the fish are around then you have a far greater chance of landing something by using a berley with an oil. I have always used a fish oil of some kind but this season I have experimented with different oils as tuna and fish oil are now making it an expensive exercise. I believe using a fish sauce or a molasses oil can do the same job. Have used both these of late with my last few outings searching for bait fish and have been successful on all of them. 40 mullet on one, 36 mullet, ST's and tommies on another and this sunday got another 23 mullet and tommies. What I had noticed was that baits were being smashed when berley was fresh in the water, but not so intense were the hook ups when the berley was not being used. So here you can assume that my oil based berley is doing its bit. I use the same process for mulloway (salt creek) but more for the bait fish, so catch the bait fish, transfer to bigger rods and so the cycle should go round. Summing up; I use the bait for berley (minced mullet, ST's, pellets and oil) to catch the bait (mullet and ST's) and then the bait to catch the mulloway. So the theory that smaller fish will bring larger ones is how the food chain should work. I can't say how these oils will work for snapper and such, one can only experiment with them, but I can certainly say it works in my system. Jack., afishyfish and urhookedfish 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Well not sure what happened there but posting in the middle of a disconnection has started a new post! Bring out the UFO music.....Great post initially by the way. Is that a fox wing in your avatar piccie?Want to get one of those.TB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 It did it again?????Freaken out here admin... :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: TB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aarron 29 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 It did it again?????Freaken out here admin... :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: TBI think you were responding when I moved it.... I hope Tacklebags 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surf_94 1 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 thanks for that. fox wing in my avatar?? What's a "fox wing"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 thanks for that. fox wing in my avatar?? What's a "fox wing"?It's an awning that folds out from the side of your 4WD and around the back like a flying fox wing. Provides a heap of shade and you can zip tents to them as well.You see them rolled up along the side of 4WD's attached to the roof racks.TB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surf_94 1 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Ahhh I call it an annexe. I made it myself and it rolls into the luggage rack. Th luggage rack has two extendable poles off the side and one from the middle with two tent poles placed at the back of the rack and two at end of the annexe you form the tent shape. Both sides can be zipped up at once or stretched out with the back rolled up. Very wind resistent especially at salties and plenty of shade when all open. Makes it very easy to live out of the back of the car. Takes about 30mins to set up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Brilliant...you could sell those!A man with a talent and/or knows what he needs when out in the weather.CheersTB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 It did it again?????Freaken out here admin... :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: TBI think you were responding when I moved it.... I hope You mist have moved it just as the moon rose Aaron Happens all the time :dry: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 It did it again?????Freaken out here admin... :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: TBI think you were responding when I moved it.... I hope You mist have moved it just as the moon rose Aaron Happens all the time :dry:Gathering the word 'mist' was a freudian slip their AFF? Or was mist added to moon to create a further sense of eerieness to the scenario at hand??? :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: TB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Just Me 0 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 When has tuna ever been apart of a snappers diet. Why not just use fish sauce' date=' can get it for $10 for 4 Litre available from asian shopping centres verses $40-50 for tuna oil from tackle shops[/quote']Good tip Force. Bought some today for a try. Worst case i will use it for cooking anyhow lol. Soaking chook pellets in a 2lt ice cream container. Label says it's anchovie extract. Might add some oil canola oil to creat a slick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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