fishnfreak 0 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 hey all, I'm relatively new to salmon on metal, and after picking up my new Seajigger 315 with a SOL 3000, i have realised i might as well try to find out the best method.What is YOUR recommended/favorite retrieval style for metals, and also favorite brands and styles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief 706 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Just had a session on small salmon in ceduna and found that retrieval was the faster the better we used them little flat Halco lures with the red plastic thingy hanging by the hooks and it was action non stopbrilliant fun on light gear :woohoo: :silly: :woohoo: But then again Im a river fisher and havent had much to do with the BIG BLUE. Just lucky I guess ,at Davenport Creek they Were hammering my biggest stump jumpers Which I use for Murray Cod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dubs The Tackle Man 0 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 get it out there and crank it back it they'll smash it.Any metals should work, I like to put a samll bend in all my metal slugs gives the slug even more action.Salmon are sea carp will eat anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 fishnfreak wrote:What is YOUR recommended/favorite retrieval style for metals, and also favorite brands and stylesUsually anything in a pilchard pattern, or just plain silver such as a chrome slice will do the job Raiders seem to be the flavour of the month just now, Spanyids are always good, and the old halco slice is a classic Retreival depends on the fish and the day sometimes. Try varing your speeds to finsd the one that works. Faster isnt always best, but fairly quick is will normally work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
__matt__ 0 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Crank it flat out for 20ft then pause for a split second, crank, pause, and repeat. Works the best for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Softy 2,991 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 i normally use my light rod when throwing out metals... tho last trip to conventions i was casting my spool dry and had to stop it manually :lol:I really need to get a 9ft combo to do this sort of stuff.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benny 1 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 with metals I like to mix up the retrieve a bit. some days the salmon prefer a chase and other days they are lazy, what I normally do is cast out the metal and let it sink for a few seconds and do a flatout retrieve until the metal is skipping across the surface and then pause for a few secs and skip it across the surface again, then pause and then retrieve the metal at a moderate pace. salmon are usually excited by seeing the metal hit the surface and the noises it makes brings the fish over to investigate (a bit like kingies) and if there not taking the lure on the faster retrieve then they will usually smack it on the drop or when the metal is being reeled in at a moderate pace. I prefer to use metals in the 20 gram range as its a good allrounder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Softy 2,991 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 20g..You talking about ST's or Salmon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benny 1 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 both, bigger salmon will still grab the 20gm metals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I usually go with the fast retrieve, but if I know there's fish there and they're not taking like that I'll mix it up a bit, a little stop and start letting it flutter down in between, that will usually get them if they're not taking on the fast retrieve. For surf fishing I'll use anything from 15g up to 85g depending on what the wind is doing. My favourite time to fish is when there's a strong onshore blow, and my go to lure at those times is a 2 oz. Haw River Tackle Short-Body Stingsilver (from the US) in silver if the sun is about or a white painted one when it's not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
samboman 319 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Cast out ya 65g raider, and crank it back in as fast as ya can Sambo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snake 1 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 crank that mother as fast as your little hand can turn the handle on your reel,even jerk the rod a bit as you go,no matter how fast u retrieve the lure u will never outpace a salmon!!good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plankton 725 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I almost forgot, swap out any treble hooks on your metal lures for singles, salmon can get off trebles very easily, your catch rate will be much higher with single hooks, I like to use circle hooks, gets them right in the corner of the mouth every time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fishnfreak 0 Posted May 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 just fished St Kilda for some STs but only one found the hooks. Bloody hell the Seajigger casts a mile, and i think i'll be changing to singles to try to get rid of some of the weed out there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bocky 2 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I like the raiders as well but the ones with the green on them. Retrieve as fast as you can but if thats not working mix it up. Let it sink more, pause and wind anything that will attract the fishs attention. Halco twistes are also good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Keen 0 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 if ya wanna have fun with the st's I recommend using soft plastics as the poor buggers are unable to resist something like a 4inch minnow or a squidgey flickbait. you can also mix up the retrieve more with soft plastics from fast to bottom bouncing.yesterday i beached a 58cm goolwa sambo using my 7ft bream flick stick with a blue squidgey fish, a truely awesome fight indeed!! screaming runs, aerobatics and they never say die!!still smilin' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dutchxfisher 18 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Placcies are good and prob ideal, but don't cast anywhere near as efficiently as a metal, or even a bait and they wear out. I find halco slices silver of gold (good middle of the day) or Knight wedges in 20gms in the pink (ideal colour in lowlight) land me a couple a greenbacks.I have had good success on 2kg+ Salmon on 15-20gm lures. No brainer that you can fire much bigger casting distance with the right gear and with more ease. And when ya battle 2kg+ fish on 2000-2500 gear you'll really learn what salmon are about. Still good fun on the ol'surf gear, which is obviously will still be dominant for bait, but it's a skull drag in comparison. Different techniques on different days and scenarios, down Fowlers my mate discovered a real yanking action was the only thing making them bite off the ledges, other times just a fast steady retrieve (works well at waits for me), other times cranked, other times a slow flutter. And if ya aint catching, it's probably cause the fish are probably wondering what kinda douche would swim a piece of metal in front of their face and expect a result. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerG 1 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 I have found that double hooks (That is a one piece double not two hooks)are very effective with metals as well as poppers and othe lures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenton 637 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 dutchxfisher wrote:Different techniques on different days and scenarios, down Fowlers my mate discovered a real yanking action was the only thing making them bite off the ledges, other times just a fast steady retrieve (works well at waits for me), other times cranked, other times a slow flutter.Same as above and my favorite would be the Gillies blue pilchard around he metro area,its got a decent flutter on the drop on slow days. cheers brenton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarsOne 137 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Anyone given blades a crack the sambos? You'd reckon it'd get their attention. Plan on throwing them around Browns in July some time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dutchxfisher 18 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Blades haven't even crossed my mind! But is sounds genius! I'll be in Lincoln in a couple of weeks, I'll definitely be giving them a whirl if the opportunity presents! They cast a breeze! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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