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Just thought I'd point something out which bears a lot of similarity to this.In the case of cockling, if you go in a group, usually someone stays back to count the cockles, check the size or even just go there to enjoy the beach. There's always an inactive participant. ie. they do not go out there to dig for the cockles. However, the bag limit for the cockles here applies to the number of people you have in your big group, not the people who are out there digging for cockles.Now if you agree with this cockling bag limit, you shouldn't have any issues with this squidding scenario with Jewie because his dad most certainly participated in one way or another by cleaning the boat of the squid ink, landing the squid or even placing the squids in the correct buckets so jewie and his mate wouldn't lose any squidding time. His duty in this case would be similar to that of a cockling partner who sits on the beach and counts the cockles or checks for the size.

Boat limit is boat limit. Doesn't matter if the other was not fishing, maybe he/she was manning the nets or targeting another species, driving and anchoring the boat, he/she is still a crew member. That's my interpretation.On first reading the thread i must admit i read it the same was as State Squidder also.

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Here is the link to the Ugly Stik page in the Pure Fishing website. All of the information you require can be found here. Hope it is of some help.http://www.purefishing.com.au/rods/uglystik/RegardsSteve

In the Traditional range, roughly you will pay upwards from $150.00, depending on the model. As I said in my original reply, Shakespeare have a huge range of Ugly Stik's to choose from. The best thing for you to do is pop into your local tackle store who stocks Shakespeare. They may not carry the full range, but should have enough so as you can compare the differences in each model.RegardsSteve

Overall, the Ugly Stiks are a good range of rod and you will not be disappointed with your purchase. As with all brands, they have a cheaper range then work their way up to the better quality and hence a larger price ticket. In the cheaper end of the range, there is very little difference ( if any ) to the Surecatch Sensortip, Silstar Powertip and Penn Powerstick. Compleat Angler or Tackle World should have these in stock so ask them to show you different models, play with them and make your own decision as to what will suit you, both in the type of rod and obviously the price. RegardsSteve

Yeah you could use the ugly stick as a light- medium snapper/ mully rod I reckon it would be okay. Don't know about rays though, you might need to beef your gear up a bit more for them. They pull hard.

G'day pikk0nWhat model Ugly Stik is it, as there are so many in the range? The Daiwa reel you have shown the link to would be an ideal reel for Whiting / Rugger Snapper. When you are in Compleat Angler, if the reel does not come with a spare spool, enquire about getting one. You could spool one up with 10 - 12lb braid for your Whiting etc, and the 2nd spool with 20lb for the Ruggers. The reel will certainly handle it. Regarding the 24kg Rod....in my humble opinion, possibly too stiff for Mulloway and Snapper, but ideal for small sharks and rays. So many times I have seen anglers fishing for Snapper using a heavy action rod, and they lose the fish at the gaff, simply because a Snapper will try to dive and if there is no flex in the rod to give you time to adjust your drag, they will snap you off. Also another thing to think about, when fishing for snapper you are generally at the back of the boat, so get a rod that has adequate length so there is plenty of room to play the fish over the motor if you need to. RegardsSteve

I just checked out SamN's video and saw the one where he caught a man. LOL!! That's funny as. The bloke's extremely lucky you were there. Nice trout sesh too. I recognise one spot.

Oh..............and don't take your eyes off the waves!

those damn pics have got me hungry again ranger :cheer: when using sea water to keep them alive keep a close eye on them coz once one dies its a fast chain reaction and can have lots of stinky bait in know time i found ice the best method of keeping them alive longest or fridge is better but no fridge while camping

Dont freeze them. Cook them fresh.

If anyone who had caught wind of the recent issues regarding Normanville and shark fishing wanted to look it up in google to find out more would come across this topic on strike hook...Type in "normanville shark fishing"Anyone with any interest in finding out more on the story (journo's for one) is led directly here and will use whatever information they want from what is said and twist it they way they wish. Reading through these 11 pages gives a very distinct mindset of the sharkers on this forum.

Amazing! 11 pages and going... :ohmy: although everyone is and has put up good arguments over the pros and cons of shark fishing on metro jetties and the beurocrats will in the end - have their way one way or the other,I'm going to dumb it down a bit and although some might not agree - and thats your choice - give you one mans opinion...1. The old fella that took it upon himself to use his age and "local-ness" to abuse the shark fisherman for fishing on "his jetty"???? :dry: - broke the law.......If you are angry about life for whatever reason - see a therapist! dont take it out on others....If you approach anyone - abuse them - touch their personal property - and threaten?? That is breaking the law.... can just imagine what would have happened if the tables were turned and the sharko did that to the old man! Anyway - the story goes the "local" police knew the old man and so decided to "believe" and take his side and overlook what happened? why? Because he is old???? frail??? a respected member of the community??? (again my opinion sounds like the police need to go back to police school and re-learn the rules)....2. Bronze whaler shark - diet - fish, squid, offal... White pointer shark - diet - seals, dolphins, fish, other sharks, whales, offal...Fact: In the fiji islands shark fisherman use "rattles" to lure sharks (a stick with coconut shells cut in half and piled on top of eachother) then sort of "shuck shucked" in the water and it brings them to the boat - sounds like a fish thrashing or a (SWIMMER splashing) sends them crazy....The point here is that the sharks will first be lured to the commotion in the water by the swimmers - they will "feel" the vibrations and come in for a look....(that is what a shark does).....BUT

Call into woolworths liquor at goolwa they had a bag of 5 kilo ice for $2.99, one bag should be enough.

Bag of ice (Keeping them cool ) is all you need to keep them alive, they last up to a week or so in the fridge has been my experience, nothing like fising for whiting with live cockles, but can be a prick to open :evil:

I cant really top such a great post by Sbarnden!. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: But, I have received a response from Sarfac which I will post below.Thanks BrettThis has happened in other regions, in fact it goes back many years with some surf life saving clubs.I have forwarded your email onto SARFAC Executive members and will keep you posted, thanksGaryGary FlackExecutive OfficerSouth Australian Recreational Fishing Advisory Council Inc.Marine House300 Morphett StreetAdealaide SA 5000Web-site: www.sarfac.comAt least we know that Sarfac Executive members have now been made aware of the situation.Brett.Again Sbarden, I must again thank you for a fantastic post mate!

By fishing somewhere else, it's to avoid confrontation. After a news release like that, you're bound to have a lot of anti-sharko vigilante idiots out there. Don't put yourself and your $1000++ equipment in danger. You can put forth your point of views without purposely heading to a location knowing you'll get yourself into a fight. At the end of the day, if you land a punch on some idiot who touches your rod, you'll make yourself look worse thanks to the media. Also, the more likely charge will be for assault rather than tampering with another person's fishing equipment illegally seeing that one can be concretely proven with marks and bruises whereas the other is most likely hearsay. Put forth your point of view through either the media, the appropriate people/organisation/clubs and of course if you want, a non-aggressive rally. Educate the public through fairs or any other activities. Just don't purposely go up to the jetty to prove a point. You'll be doing no one else except these anti-sharkos and the media a huge favour.

To all the sharkers, below is a copy of an email I have just sent to SARFAC asking for support of shark fishing.To: Sarfac@bigpond.comHi Gary, I’m not sure if you are aware but there is a storm in a tea cup brewing over shark fishing by younger anglers off the Normanville Jetty. This has slowly been gaining momentum over the last few weeks.The surf lifesaving club is claiming that illegal burleying is likely to attract sharks that could kill or injure their kids.They are clearly playing the fear card as we all know that the only species of sharks that are likely to kill or injure their children is Great Whites, and there has been no reports of Great Whites Sharks close to jetties along our entire coastline in many years!The likelihood of one of their children being attacked by either a Gummy or Bronze whaler shark totally negligible.Shark fisherman are being portrayed in a very NEGATIVE fashion by the media in the Victor Harbour times, and this is unjustified and causing the public to be scare mongered to the point where logical rational regarding shark injury risks are being overlooked, because as you know it’s hard to talk reason with someone who is gripped by fear.Here is the article if you are yet to see it.http://www.victorharbortimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/shark-bait-fury/2361238.aspxAs the President of SA Red Taggers which is an ANSA-SA Affiliated club, I am asking for SARFACs urgent support on this matter. The member for Finniss (Michael Penguilly) has been quick to jump on the shark fisherman and crucify them before there voice is heard. These are responsible young anglers that are fishing within the law. Any cases of illegal burleying have been by unknown fisherman and we are totally against this irresponsible behaviour, but the majority of shark anglers on the forum Strike n Hook fish using only legal burleying techniques.I ask that SARFAC acts on this information and provides its support on this as soon as possible before Laws are passed to ban shark fishing at Normanville and then possibly other local beaches.This will be a travesty of justice based on irrational scaremongering if it goes ahead, and would take away an activity that gives anglers great pleasure and satisfaction. As you know our sport is fighting for recognition from the government and if this ban succeeds it will be a blow for the recreation of fishing!Brett OakleyPresidentSA Red Tagger (SART)ANSA-SA

This is a ticking time bomb.Whether what has been portrayed in the media is a a fair account or not, a perception is being formed, and formed quickly.You think there is heat on you guys now for land based shark fishing?..... god forbid should someone be killed or attacked by a shark somewhere along our coast..... think about the hackles that will raise, considering it's already being negatively portrayed in the media and I think you will find this issue will escalate quick smart - for the worse.Don't take this post the wrong way fellas, I'm not against shark fishing and an avid fisherman myself. But I think it would be a good time now to lay low and use your brains, not your mouths.

The news article is exactly how "it" starts...and what did I say about bipartisan political support?pikkOn
Forum posting of latest C&R efforts unfortunately in the same category as I too am tempted to say "Move it for now or lose it"...except I suspect that unfortunately the real miscreants would probably not visit this forum anyway - even if everyone reading this site applied more discretion for a while there are others out there for whom that word probably does not exist..."Not doing nothin illegal, maate, wot ya gunna do about it!!??"And they would be strictly speaking correct - for now, but watch this space fellas...just one shark attack or even a couple of close-to-shore sightings (whether fishing related or not) and I have a feeling you will see some pretty impressive regulatory "fast-tracking"...It is a rather PC 21st century world we are living in, sad to say a minority don`t realise it.Wise words - certain parties would love to get some publicity to support their cause given that the MP zoning Public Consultation period is imminent.Timing is everything... they will be very grateful for the opportunity an over-publicised verbal altercation has given them to possibly escalate that to the next level of "violent redneck fishos" belting someone.Speaking of zoning - have a look at the attachment. Would not be hard to permit shore based fishing (including jetties, that one has been repeatedly promised ad nauseam!) but how about a HPZ up to 1km offshore between Christies and Wirrina where targeting sharks specifically is precluded?Could be considered given recent events.They can`t use that rationale for metro thankfully because there are no MPs in that part of the world...then again, a little change to the Fishing Regs...not to mention the Council By-Laws vehicle???"But it`s legal, maaate!" won`t cut it thereafter....MPA_15_E_BW_Geo_A4.pdf