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I think my fav would be my Wilson FSU 6144..Had it for over decade - its caught sharks, xos mulloway, casts a 6oz sinker and a slab of flesh as far as I need it..Although some would say it's a heavy rig to use i'm used to it and at least I know im not going to have a problem if if I hook something that needs a bit more pressure to stop...Coupled to a genuine penn 9500ss its an old fashioned pleasure to use...

I used to sit in the coffin bay channel fishing for kingies and snapper and catch fresh octopus on a small jig..

always love it when that happens up there......Fresh bait!

Gday southie, lol, good choice theyre a good rod - you cant have mine but try the "got one" chain....That's where i got mine....Or just give them a call and get them to order one from "wilson".....Cheers

G'day guys' date='Putting together a bit of a list of gear to buy as my journey to salt creek draws closer, gathered from searched info found on this site and others... Have I done my research well enough for a mid range surf setup?Daiwa Sensor Surf 13'/2pc, 20-40lb, 3-6oz - $259 - Is there a cheaper rod of equal quality?Penn Spinfisher 850 SSM Reel - $99 - Anyone own one that can vouch for these as they're quite cheap in price?)Jinkai 80lb or 100lb Leader?Mono line - 30lb - What brand?My main reason for this thread is what brand of mono are people using? I've read a lot about braids and 30lb seems to be the go for both but I can't find anything on what brand mono people are using?Cheers,kadava[/quote']Gday mate, I use maxima ultragreen 30lb and it wears really well....The gs9 is a great reel - a real 4wd low range stump puller - I think they are geared down to about 3 to 1 but never liked the fact that they only hold about 220yds of 30....I run 9500ss penns and have seen the inside of the spool a few times on a big mully and they hold over 300yds packed on so i suppose that is the only drawback...rods - well im a big fella so i run a wilson fsu 6144 with added butt for more casting purchase as my no.1 rod and I have snyder fsu 5120s as back up rods - but this is up to the induvidual....find a rod that fits you....Hope you do well at salties - should be a good year down there for xos mullies! Cheers...

Hi all just wondering if anyone does any beach wormiming in the south ' date='are there any places to get beach worms down south? ,something that i wouldnt mind spending an afternoon haveing a crack at if you are able to do it on metro beaches ,looks like it could be a bit of fun trying to catch the little buggers[/quote']Gday Crispy,Yep - sellicks - aldinga - pt. willunga - moana all have the the little buggers...Ive had a crack a few times with the sock full of fishy smell - cockle and patience - got a few but lost a lot more! lol - it's not as easy as some make it look! It takes a lot of practice but they are there if you want to have a crack...Cheers..

Went down a couple of times yesty, (not cockling) but saw heaps doing it - Just a word - try to pick low tide - saw heaps yesty floundering about at high tide not getting much - and then there was the seasoned pro's there in the late arvo cleaning up (because the tide was out) - gave them a lot more active area to work....

yeh mate was going to say some of those google maps are up to 8 years old....Nearmaps will give you the most up to date fotos...

This was mentioned in chat about getting some from goolwa? I remember Reading somewhere there was a limit? Whats involved in farming them? Or do i continue to pay 12 DOLLARS for 12 pippies [/quote']farming cockles would be an elaborate set up - you'd need a constant supply of fresh running seawater - a helluva lot of sand and lots of space to stock juveniles - at 2 bucks a kilo I dont think anyone ever thought about it but at 15 and up???? food for thought :S :whistle: :pinch: Getting a few at goolwa bch is childs play - its a great day out and a couple of trips will see you stocked up for the year...I just stop for ten mins on the way up to the mouth and get plenty...

GDK' date='I have an N70 100 AH wet cell under the hood and 2 x 100 AH AGM securely attached in the back of the wagon. I run both the 60 litre (evercool) fridge and 40 litre (engel)freezer off both the AGMs during the day. The solar panel are hooked up to these two. At night I take the fridge off these batteries and connect it to the one battery under the hood. The panels can run both fridges during the day whilst still recharging the AGMs. I didn't think it would be possible but it works. Longest stay in one spot with this setup was on Frances Peron Penisula at Shark Bay this March for 9 nights. Each day was 38 deg +. I had a genny back up but only used it to recharge the wet cell every 3rd day as the car didn't move. The panels are 'permamently' mounted to the roof rack so I have to park in the sun. I need to work out a better system so I can easily detach them and position them better then performance should be better + the fridges won't have to work so hard if I can park the car in the shade. I'm fairly confident now that I don't need the genny for week long trips but it is good insurance if you consider how much fish you can catch and bring back in a freezer - especially mulloway, gummies, tuna, spanish mackeral etc. I know of mates who have packed up from Yalata on the first day of a week trip because they have caught a 60lb mulloway and can't keep it so they go home rather than waste the fish.Overcast days aren't much of a problem because they are generally cooler and the fridges don't have to cycle as much to maintain temp.With the freezer I also maintain about 10 litres of ice in plastic bottles so I can take 5 litres out with me in the boat in an esky or a small bait esky when on the beach. I have noticed that I use heaps less bait once its thawed as it gos back into the fridge and lasts up to 5 days before re-use. I looked at wind turbines but the good ones are expensive. My panels and 20 Amp regulator was $620 but I did the install myself. I also buy a spare 12v power cable for the fridges and cut the plug off them and hard wire these directly to the battery. One less thing to go wrong as plugs do fall out and are not very efficient.[/quote']Cheers for that knackers,sounds like you have a pretty good set up there....I used to take a 160L fisher and paykel chest freezer (very economical to run) and run it with a bank of deep cycle batts and a 1000/2000w power inverter (Which also had a modified batt charger plumbed into the system constantly charging the system as it went (I had to recharge the set up with the genny every 4th/5th day) - I think a solar set up would buy me a few extra days before I had to start thinking about recharging....I ran 3x 100ah deep cycle batts but also ran lights and other electrical equipment off the system....I think I will look into solar as it seems to be coming into its own now and becoming more user friendly....As for expense I would use the set up in my shed to run the beer fridge etc. and to experiment to make it a better system so the system wouldnt be idle when not camping....Yes, the frozen water bottles work a treat - I will always run a few in my small bait esky just to keep the temp down...Q:?? The MPPT? You said you were running the 20amp version - I am thinking of getting the 40amp because i am thinking of running 2x 240w folding panels and want to be able to upscale if necessary....Would that be possible or do I have to upscale the mppt as I add to the system??Anyway, cheers and thanks for the info.....

From many years of multiweek fishing and camping on the FWC in summer I have learnt a few things the hard way I don't use poly types tarps anymore as they are useless. I use the heavy duty shade cloth types as the wind passes through them (cooling) and as they don't catch the wind as much the eyelets don't rip out. I use good qualtiy alloy extendable poles as they don't rust. I aslo make small plates out of marine ply for bases for any poles for shade.As soon as it gets offshore the flies are ridiculous. Some sort of fly proof shelter to eat in. I'm a fan of quickshades now and found them very durable. I always take a portable am radio for tuning into the ABC for weather reports. I have found them very accurate in Summer. If it is going to be offshore and above about 37 deg I personally set up shade on the beach the evening or before dawn on the day. It is hard to do with 20+ knots of northerly and every orifice of your body full of flies @ 40+ degrees.No more ice. Two portable fridges' date=' one as a freezer and one as a fridge. This takes time, effort and money. I installed all my own electrics into the 4WD - two 100W solar panels and MPPT regulator, two seperate isolated circuits for 3 auxillary batteries. So much easier than ice and eskys. If you are going to take spares you need to know how to replace them and what tools you need. I have had to replace two wheel bearings and a stub axle. If your wheel bearings go you will need to have pry bars, the specific tool to remove the nut (most 1/2 inch socket spanners won't have a socket big enough), punches, files, maybe heating tools etc. Far better to service them yourself and know the warning signs when they require some attention before you go or on the trip. I have a spare wheel bearing just so I don't have to wait weeks for a part to arrive but have the tools as well. I would defineatley take you OWN snatch strap and winch extension strap, I get sick of unpacking mine to get other people off the beach. If you get recovered a six pack goes a long way in thanks (just not at Yalata). If you take a trailer most of the camping spots at Yalata, Dog fence etc only have very short sections where you you need to go into low range 4WD (except the beach). I take my 12 ft tinny and drop it off at the beginning of the beach or dune and unload the 4wd at the camping spot. Go back for the boat transfer the heavier items from the boat to the 4WD like water and fuel due to the smaller footprint of the trailer tyres. Always let your trailer tyres down as well. I have seen some massive trailers on the western dog fence beach no problems. Don't be afraid to let your tyres down dependant on the conditions. I've been down to 8 psi before to get the car off the beach. Just avoid rapid acceleration and turns at speed. Pump them back up when off the sand or go slow. When sand is cold it is denser and easier to drive on so go in during the very early morning if it is going to be hot. Evening is no good as the sand holds it heat fairly well.Take a few packets of salt and newspaper. If you use any fish bait (esp pillies) when they defrost and get soggy you can use a small bait esky, line it with paper and layer the pillies with the salt - one layer pillies and salt, newspaper, and repeat. Good emergency source of bait. Plenty of soft plastics 3 - 5 inch and chrome lures as well. I take a home made oil and pellet berley, not for mulloway but more for STs and tommies for bait.[/quote']Great post there Knackers!Reminds me of those days where the extremes of the fwc show themselves - (lol I want to be up there now)!Great Electrical set up!What sort of batterys are you using? Deep cycle obviously but how big?Are two 100w panels enough to keep the system going? How does it go after a few overcast days?Was toying with the same sort of idea but with a small marine wind turbine as back up...

mate, basically, as long as your vehicle is reliable, you'll be right - the first time - you'll work out what you need and dont need - after that its easy....fishing gear (that includes gaffs/knives - burley stuff rods reels hooks etc)bait/ice/eskysFoodCooking stuffSleeping stuff / tent / swag / mattress whichever way you choosecar stuff / spares and safetypersonal stuff..sunscreen/ fly screen/ etc...Everyones different so you'll work it out...Oh, and make sure you have a spare "iced" esky for fillets! Cheers...

yeh, done both - towed a trailer the times i took the quad and freezer etc. - lol - i dont tow a trailer anymore....Just the basic necessities now....Towing a trailer is a real drag! especially on the offroad bit....Again, if you choose to tow a trailer make sure it's ready for the offroad onslaught...Its amazing how much you can fit in a mid size 4bie anyway....

gday mate,,,,,,anything!!!!I"ve had one for 15 years! and its still doing the hard yards....Same as red - wouldnt sell it for quids.....you got a good reel there mate, it'll do anything for you (fishing wise)....Mine is my mully go to reel.....

lol yeh, great series....heaps of fwc hints there!

Having only ever driven buckets of crap all my life I think tools and parts to get you out of trouble are pretty important' date=' even if your car is newish and recently serviced - spare fan belt if its not electric, air compressor, tow rope, jumper leads, zip ties, a bit of wire and some duck tape. Make sure there's no play in the trailer bearings, if so take some grease and a spare [/quote']Gday kadava, ahhh yeh the car stuff! was thinking his list was only what to take and not the "necessities"!!!! Obviously they would be taking a 4bie so I HOPE they have the basics! belts / spare parts / compressors (for tyre pressure) / Tools / First aid kit / Tow rope or snatchie or both/ spare tyre/s / Patch kit / jack / base plate for sand jacking / Hoses / Coolant / wheel bearings / grease - work out your cars weaknesses and bring spares....(as i have already stated somewhere I even carry a spare c.v. just in case)...I think the last person (I heard of) that had to get towed outa there paid $1500...Its probably more now.........

30lb. mate, youre gonna get a few scratches and scrapes on the line - not to mention wear and tear and the line rubbing and running through the runners - so you're basically playing with 20lb's anyway...

Gday W2bf,Im sure its just an oversight but maybe the bait / eskys (ice boxes) and ice????Some places up there you can't light fires (at some times) so a gas cooker and gas???A really good knife set (long knife for filleting the xos mully) - and sharpener...A heavy duty scaling tool - They have some tough large scales...Rod holders! Make your own - use heavy poly pipe (drain pipe) make sure they are long (about 160cm up) so you can dig them in deep (seen rods catapault out of poorly set holders before)GAFF!!!!!! Oh, and get yourself one of those portable vehicle jump starters - just in case....Just remember you are going to an area that is inhospitable, uninhabited, extreme, plan accordingly - bigger is better - stronger is important - so just for instance if you have a tent - thicker guy ropes and longer tent spikes (wind).....OR instead of sunscreen use zinc! etc.etc... Always check your swag before you jump in (snakes) and dont leave anything out that a dingo or ferrule dog could swipe....If you're driving at night out past penong, watch out for roos / wombats and camels and catch lots of fish!

Ok - Ill tell you this little fishing story and let you decide:Bob's kitchen - N.E. about 5 knots - hot / overcast / offshore - not much swell - clearish water.....Spotted a great hole accompanied to a break in the second sandbar so I lobbed a fresh s/t right on the edge of the sandbar and waited - and waited....20 or so minutes then started walking away fom my rod....I was about 20 feet away from it (walking away) when my rod tip just moved a bit and then snapped back to nothing again....i stopped and watched - nothing - started walking away again and again - just a small movement (a pull foreward) then it let go again....I pulled my line in and the s/t was chewed to bits - and almost gone.....I replaced it and threw it in the same spot again.....Waited ---- waited ------then walked away ------same thing! straight away! soon as I walked away - the rod tip just moved.....What the!!!!!Pulled my line in again - and this time the s/t was chewed but it had the teeth marks of a good sized jewy so it was on......The next cast i did the same thing - waited for a little while (10 mins) but this time when I walked away I loosened my drag so when i walked away I took the line with me - rod in the rod holder but as I walked off I had the line coming off the reel and coming with me keeping the line tight - same same - 20 odd feet away the tip started flicking - I yanked the line and all hell broke loose! -------- so the point is - this fish was watching me!!! They arent that dumb.....That changed the way I fished up there - from that moment on I went stealth - and caught a helluva lot more fish.....I cut out all the un natural aspects of my presence there eg. noise / smell / (i washed my hands in the sand and salt before baiting up) fresh bait / (fresh dead) livies dont seem to work - and kept away from my rod and sat closer up near the sandhill....And caught more fish!!Sorry about the quality of the photo but this was a long time ago and it was the days before digital - this is the fish and you can see the conditions - still this fish was watching me - it was aware of my presence there......Even though its a long way from nowhere to catch fish you still have to follow the basics of jewie fishing....(if you want to catch fish)....

cheers GDK' date=' i wouldnt have thought that the Genny would make that difference but can see the logic, we have a land rover and a trailer so i reckon that we should get everything that we need in that. i dont want to be unprepared but i figure s long s we got fuel, food and water, fishing gear and a reliable car we should be right [/quote']Sounds about right mate, but yeh what red bull said - make sure you have shelter - even set up something on the beach while you are down there - as I said - everything is extreme up there and I have never experienced heat like up there - oppressive!! (well it can be given the right conditions)...make sure you are prepared for that.. Sunscreen/ hats/ lots of water - avoid dehydration and sunstroke - theres lots of nothing out there and help is a long way away....lol yeh afishyfish, its amazing what ive seen some people take up there - Ive seen jacksons hole lit up like a chrismas tree - could hear the gennys going and the music all the way from bobs kitchen! when talking to the "campers" they were complaining about the lack of mulloway and the abundance of sharks! well.....lol some dont put 2 and 2 together.....Ive been up there many many many times and have done the genny and not - the quads and not - both and both - not and not - best and most productive is like any mulloway fishing - no light on the water and no noise.....steady and consitent - whereas with the noise - one here one there and lots of sharks seem to come to the vibration......Yep those ironing boards seem to find their way up there - they (the fishnet guys) did take everything - not that im opposed to people being prepared - but it can be overboard - lol what gets me is I see it a lot - people up there creating a mini city campsite with fridges freezers genny(s) sat dishes lol and the kitchen sink - and make a fuss when they dont catch anything.. lol it was funny reading - a big long page of story but at the beginning of it - yeh but we didnt catch any big mulloway!!!! Duh!!!Im just trying to help a few who want to do the 1000 plus k trip to make it worthwhile and not just make it a camping trip...Cheers....

yeh, it is a biggie....I dont go there - too many people usually - even heard of fights breaking out there because of crossed lines and lost fish...I fish bobs kitchen - ahhh the serenity! until the reel screams! yeh the one im holding here was caught on a freshie s/t....Actually done trips up there where I only take cockles for bait and work my way up....

Guys, lol, loved the "list"! seems people take everything up there - was the kitchen sink in there somewhere???? If you are heading to the aboriginal lands or anywhere past nundroo for that matter you are going to pretty harsh conditions so remember to upscale - if youre using a tent - get xos pegs and maybe a seweing kit if your tent is blown apart by a sudden blow - it can happen - remember when its hot - its really hot (when theres no sea breeeze up there it can get opressively hot) - blowing - its blowing a gale - take fly hats (with netting) - I was chased off a beach once up there cos' I forgot the aerogaurd (it was impossible to fish) - remember extreme....Take whatever you think is necessary lol I suppose the most important thing is to make sure your vehicle is in tip top condition - dont skimp on the prep and make sure you are carrying spare hoses - belts - etc....I even carry a spare set of shocks and have a cv tucked away just in case......lol sorry im still amused by that list - and there's a reason - I suppose the question is what you're going up there for - camping???? or are you going there to catch fish??? If it is the latter and you want to fish anywhere but geues (campsite on the other side of the sandhill) dont take the genny! There are fish up there and they are big - its amazing how many people leave there without fish.....Vibration travels through the ground and the fish pick up on it...Believe it or not...... I had a trip up there where we actually had a school of fish in front of us for 3 days (it was an incredible experience catching 50lb plus fish every cast)...A fairweather fisho mate rocked up - set up his campsite (along with his genny) - pulled the ripcord and the school was gone! We spent another 3 days there catching sharks and rays....Gotta remember you are going itno the middle of nowhere - the only noise up there is natural.....Introduce a foreign noise up there and skittish fish bolt....Im sure there's going to be people saying "well we had a genny and caught fish"!!! fair enuff - you'll never know how much better you could have done if you didnt have one.....Just a tip.....Cheers....

Another summer trying for that magic 100lb. mully...Been close - but no cigar.....yet.......

Try an unweighted gent on really light floating line or have you tried a floating fly outfit? watch them for a while and see what they are feeding on and try to mimic (as close as)...Cheers

lol a bit of a contradiction in terms there mate - "I want a rod thats strong but light for mullies on the fwc"???All cool there - sure, casting a big bait and a big sinker takes a bit of power and the lighter the rod the easier it is to do that....(to a point)...BUT Theres the ever present chance of getting a "Nick" on the rod that will enevitably eventually snap it at the most in opportune time eg casting it after a 12 hour drive and no shops to get another one for hundreds of k's....OR and heres the biggie! You actually hook a fwc mullie! I've got a Wilson fsu 6144 and have had that thing working at its utmost trying to stop a xos fish whos only task at that time is to get back to her rellies in tassie! Every time I hook up with a big fish over there I hear the fibreglass crack that little more - no matter what you do with it over here (eg. salties) - no matter where you fish or what you catch - there seems to be a difference in the pressure and strain you have to put on the rod - a big mullie over there is in a class all its own and WILL put your gear through its paces...So, speaking from experience I would probably go a heavier wrap rod and get a gym membership to be able to handle the extra weight....In all seriousness casting over there isnt the issue - (ive hooked fish 10 metres off the shore) so you dont need to cast that far anyway - the gym membership will come in handy for the fight of your life!