jewiehunter 0 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 hay my mate caught this in a carp pond and i cant say i have seen 1 before!! :f Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT 2 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 jewieHunter I am not sure about this but it looks like a silver perch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack. 10 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I've never caught one mate, but I would call it for a silver perch :ohmy: Hope I'm wrong, cos you need to look after them and get em back in the water quick smart :ohmy: One of the freshwater guys will no doubt put us straight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 sooty Grunter i reckon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urhookedfish 12 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Nice one Banga but sureley its a Bass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sbarnden 397 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 With those spots it looks like a jade perch to me.Thats a picture of a jade perch vs a silver perch. Jade perch has the spots.Jade Perch is a fancy name for Barcoo grunter.Could be a Leathery Grunter:Similar in appearance. But Leatheries are regarded as a very poor eating fish while jape perch are rated quite highly.Both are native to Queensland and Jade Perch is becoming a very popular aquaculture species across Australia due to their diet, behavior, growth rates and eating qualities (including the highest Omega 3 levels of all fish tested, nearly 3 times that of salmon). They don't do too well in cool waters though, whereabouts is the carp pond where it was caught? Might have been a dumped culture fish from someones backyard pond system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
protactic 0 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Port River Bream..Classic Symptoms include Black Spots and a Deformed Head...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boyington214 0 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I'm with Southie on this one. Looks a lot like a Sooty Grunter. But ... Having said that, Protactic, you could be right! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 2,200 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Jade Perch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack. 10 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Surely a jade perch would have the signature jade coloring???... Hence the name.@Sbarden, that leathery pic is very good... But it would certainly be rare to get one down here... And in such good condition.I call it for a silver perch, but to be honest I thought those spots were just mud or something till Sbarden pointed them out, so that's the only thing that has me doubting. I would be interested to know whether the fish was released and isn't as dead as it appears :dry: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 2,200 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Both are native to Queensland and Jade Perch is becoming a very popular aquaculture species across Australia due to their diet' date=' behavior, growth rates and eating qualities (including the highest Omega 3 levels of all fish tested, nearly 3 times that of salmon). They don't do too well in cool waters though, whereabouts is the carp pond where it was caught? Might have been a dumped culture fish from someones backyard pond system.[/quote']The Omega 3 contents of Jade Perch seem incredible and almost unbelievable. Most of the references on aquaculture sites to the Omega 3 content of Jade Perch were unreferenced or mentioned the initial CSIRO study in 1998 (which to my knowledge did not look at Jade Perch).http://www.ecosmagazine.com/?act=view_file&file_id=EC97p3.pdfAfter alot of searching I have finally found the study published in 2002 which shows Jade Perch (farmed and protein fed) have the highest omega 3 content of any commercial fish measured to date.http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=2045631 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jewiehunter 0 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 i replied but it didn't come up??? so its a jade perch??? it was caught at the carp ponds near perrys bend down near the onkaparinga river caught these that day as well my pb carp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenton 637 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Weird is right,never seen one before.I thought silver perch but the spots had me stumped. cheers brenton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piranha 76 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Since it wasn't caught in QLD or NT and looks like a silver perch thats had a slight infection, I'll call it for a silver perch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jewiehunter 0 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 yea i read somewhere fish can get them black spots from catch and release?? but i don't no if that's true or not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Woody 0 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 The anal fin makes it more likely to be a Grunter than a Perch imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack. 10 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Since it wasn't caught in QLD or NT and looks like a silver perch thats had a slight infection' date=' I'll call it for a silver perch [/quote']Yeah good call mate, they aren't spots, looks like some kind of past necrosis from an infection as you say which would make sense if it's from a feral carp area with stagnant mud full of bacteria.My concern is the legal question of whether it was released??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreShIe-FisHeR : D 0 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Forget the patches its definately a silver perch hands down Jack. and urhookedfish 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urhookedfish 12 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Forget the patches its definately a silver perch hands downIts probably just had a few scales fall off in the rain..LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Since it wasn't caught in QLD or NT and looks like a silver perch thats had a slight infection' date=' I'll call it for a silver perch [/quote']Yeah good call mate' date=' they aren't spots, looks like some kind of past necrosis from an infection as you say which would make sense if it's from a feral carp area with stagnant mud full of bacteria.My concern is the legal question of whether it was released???[/quote']I wouldn't get too fussed or bogged down on the issue of whether it was released or not.Best not to victimize the fella for posting the photo in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sbarnden 397 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 My concern would be if it isn't a silver perch but is an illegal exotic release of some form of grunter, be it leathery, sooty or jade perch (Barcoo grunter) from a private aquarium or aquaculture tank.Wouldn't be able to survive too long or breed in our cold waters but would be worrying that someone is happy with dumping their aquarium or tank fish somewhere.Might be worth seeing is some of the fish identification experts at PIRSA are able to identify it. You could call the FISHWATCH number (1800 065 522) and see if they have an email address you could forward the picture to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jewiehunter 0 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 yea i did release it didn't really wanna touch it looked n smelt a bit gross :sick: but haven't caught 1 there since so maybe a 1 off fish i dunno? Jack. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piranha 76 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 yea i read somewhere fish can get them black spots from catch and release?? but i don't no if that's true or notyeah mate they can be caused by rough handling, it only takes a finger to wipe away some protective slime or a scale and the fish is open to infection, ulcers etc as mentioned by jack if was out of poor quality water that heightens the chances of those types of infections occuring. The spots are also very common in intensively farmed silvers where they are kept in high densities and get knocked around by eachother.cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jewiehunter 0 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Ok then cheers for that yeah the water that fish came out of its feral haha wouldn't be eating anything near or around that pond but i have seen people take yabbies and carp from there hope they have a strong stomach because that water in there is gross!! i think that fish was a 1 off in there? haven't seen any others come up yet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 2,200 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I don't know how a Sooty Grunter would find its way here, where as numerous aquaponics enthusiasts have Jade Perch in SA and Adelaide.Here are a few more pics showing the natural variation in color of the species.http://www.ausyfish.com/jade_perch_pictures.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jewiehunter 0 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 yea looks like a fat swollen jade perch than anything else! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twinpower 151 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 jade perch it looks like! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jewiehunter 0 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 90% jade perch.....who knows were it came from or what its doing in there!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piranha 76 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 you only need to look at the body shape, jade perch are narrower between dorsal and anal fin, silvers have a deeper set body(like Jewie hunters pic) and grunters are deeper again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jewiehunter 0 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 ok then yeah well i still don't really no what every1 thinks it is but doesn't matter properly want see 1 again! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack. 10 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I wouldn't get too fussed or bogged down on the issue of whether it was released or not.Best not to victimize the fella for posting the photo in the first place.You know what? When this post first went up I freaked out abit thinking wow this guy just put up a Pic of a dead silver!!Not really a great look for the site especially with PiRSA on board.... but I was wrong, the fish was released, and it has actually been a pretty cool little post with suggestions of jade perch etc. As far as victimizing the poster, I will be the first to say sorry if my posts came accross that way... So... sorry jewiehunter and cheers for sharing that interesting catch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jewiehunter 0 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 haha Na that's alright people have there own opinions! but do they really think i would take that home?? and not let it go? i didn't even wanna touch it let alone take it home goos 2 see some people know there fish!! Jack. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellowbelly14 0 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I reckon its a black bream google pics and compare it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 2,200 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Bidyanus bidyanus or Acanthopagrus butcheri ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reelin 2 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 at first glance i wouldve said bream if i didn't know it was caught fresh! i think it looks like a silver or jade perch but remember the ponds are only a hop, onk slip and a jump away someone might have thrown it in not knowing the ponds were fresh! How long does bream last in fresh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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