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    Des got a reaction from scorpion in CHAIN REACTIONS with CHANGING SEASONS   
    Warmer water early in the season will certainly bring them into the metro areas earlier. I saw a post from Brighton Tackle claim they had been sighted locally.
    As I have previously mentioned the ongoing heavy netting of this species over winter in the last few years is having a significant detrimental impact on the overall stock status. Hopefully they are resilient and bounce back.
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    Des got a reaction from foxyfisher in TERRAIN: HIGHWAYS TO THE FEEDING ZONES   
    TERRAIN:  HIGHWAYS TO THE FEEDING ZONES  …  You can sign along to this post !
    Yellow Fin Whiting have been showing up in good numbers in both gulfs recently.
    But you still need to find them, and fish the right spots … at the right stage in the tide.
    YFW are always on the move. Actively feeding on a moving tide. Both in and out going tides.
    But there are dead transit zones, over which they will pass through without providing you much of a chance to catch them. These are merely the … Highways to the Feeding zones.
    The feeding zones is where you want to be fishing.
    In each YFW Habitat there are transit zones and feeding zones.
    In the upper gulfs the coastal environment contains a lot more mangroves and samphire beds. Nearest to shore and onshore are the Salt bushes and Samphire bed areas.
    On many stretches of the upper gulfs they will also be a mangrove forrest wall.
    Through these mangrove forrest flow many small tidal creeks and channels, that pour in and out onto Sandflats. The Sandflats drain out, eventually meeting the ribbon grass weed beds.
    In the lower gulfs, the terrain is slightly different without Mangroves and less Samphire.
    They are replaced by open sandflats, sometimes with a little scattered reef, and banks of fine seagrass weed beds, that drain out to a weedline of ribbon grass.
    Each area has it’s own characteristics and features, which influence the movements and feeding behaviour of the YFW. The all have their transit zones and their feeding zones.
    .
    WEED LINES.
    We start at the deep end, the weedline. This is the first of the habitats in which we find YFW.
    The deeper seaside of the sand flats are always bordered by the weed line of sea grass beds. These are usually Ribbon weed or tape weed beds (Posidonia varieties). Often this will be where the bottom of the low tides hold. And were the YFW take refuge on the low tides.
    In the lower sections of the gulfs, their cousins the King George Whiting also keep them company at the weed line. Along with many a Flathead too.
    The best spots for land based KGW are the weedline areas that receives a natural berley stream from  sandy shallow drains, running off the sand flats.
    This habitat is also a favourite for Flathead, which take cover in the weed edges and like to ambush baitfish straying too close.
    You will find the larger YFW hanging around here, mixing it with the Flathead and KGW. Large YFW have the speed and morphology to take minnows at the weedline. They are able to chase them down along with any Shrimp that may have come out of the sheltering grasses.
    The barrier like structure of the weed beds will mean there is always some channeling through the weed beds, caused by the tidal flows. These channels are the main flow areas during tidal movements, on and off the sandflats.
    Focus your fishing at these channel openings, both at the bottom and at the start of the tide.
    And in a dodge tide, it is the only place to be. The minimal water flows of a dodge tide will be greatest at these channels, and so stimulate the YFW to feed in that area.

    ~ King George Whiting, Yellow Fin Whiting and Flathead all found down on the weedline.

    ~ Find the water flow and fish at the channel openings
    SANDFLATS
    Sandflats … are never Flat !!!
    Sand flats don’t always slope seawards in a continuous gentle gradient. They is more often a series of ridges, gutters, bowls, channels and steps leading down to the weedline.
    These are not necessarily dramatically obvious. A 4” to 5 inch depth difference is a significant change in these shallow sandflats.
    These structures and variations in the sandflat terrain are the most obvious fish holding areas. The slightly deeper areas of the shallows, are the first areas that YFW will retreat into on a dropping tide, or swim into and hold in, on the incoming tide.
    Fish always hold at steps and drops on the sandflats, wether it be the run in or run off.
    They prefer to feed on the shallow edges of any deeper water areas rather than in the deep water itself.
    If in a fast flowing channel focus on the slow side of a bend in the channel. It is where food would naturally settle and fish will feed. It is where the benthic organisms colonise more with out fear of being swept out by a fast moving tide.
    Shallow weed beds of finer bladed, lawn like, seagrasses ( Zostera varieties) are often found on the more open flats lower in the gulfs. They are important for the movements of YFW during the tidal flows. In very shallow water YFW will tend to favour moving along the weed bed edges and take cover in the weed beds. It is an ideal spot to target them in ankle deep water. The water is always a bit deeper alongside the edges of these fine grass weed beds.
    Should the wind be a bit strong, YFW will hold on the Leeward side of these beds a bit more. And on light winds with gentle lapping waves, the windward side of these weed beds.

    ~ The small variations on the sandflats hold the fish
    SUBSTRATE on SANDFLATS
    Regardless of upper or lower gulf areas, you should identify the substrate that you are fishing on.
    As a wading fisherman you can feel and identify the different substrate underfoot.
    It is simply either, coarse, gravelly and hard, or soft, silty, and sandy.
    I usually move on quickly from the coarser, gravelly areas and onto the finer, siltier, sandy areas.
    Coarse gravelly limestone or shell grit areas are not as productive. They do not hold the YFW food so don’t hold the YFW long. It often is a faster flowing area and a transit zone for fish.
    You will still catch the odd few YFW as they use it as a highway to the feeding zones. But they won’t hold and feed there.
    The feeding zones are characterised by finer, softer, siltier sand beds. Which holds a lot more YFW food. This is where all the benthic dwelling creatures, like cockles, worms and clickers live. All the juvenile prawns that we see leaping around on the surface at night as nocturnals, now bury themselves for the day in the soft sand and silt.
    YFW linger a lot longer in these softer sandy areas searching for and feeding on the food it holds.
    MANGROVES
    Bordering the sandflats on the shoreside in the upper gulfs are often mangrove forests. Amongst the mangrove forest there are clear water ways that channel the considerable tidal movement experienced in the upper gulfs. The tides flow through tidal creeks and mangrove openings and into the samphire beds, or out onto the sandflats. These mangrove openings will hold a greater concentration of fish when the tide is moving.
    At times the thick growth and dense mangrove canopy can totally conceal an opening. There are however some tell tale signs of a concealed creek or channel. Ever wondered about those Shags, that regularly congregate on certain mangrove trees overlooking the sand flats. It’s the Shag breakfast club. The shags are there because there is food flowing out there. Minnows, Shrimp and Prawns are being brought out on the falling tide through a creek concealed by the mangrove canopy. The larger YFW are not threatened by the Shags and will also hang out the front of these spots.

    ~  Mangrove Openings have high flow rates and hold fish
    SAMPHIRE BEDS
    Once past the mangroves there are obvious narrow channels through the samphire beds. These are invariably gravelly rarely holding benthic species. But they will hold and concentrate YFW passing through that can’t help but see your offering. The YFW like to move up into the muddier samphire bed areas primarily to feed on Haswells crabs and small mud cockles. This is a highway on which you can actually take a toll.
    Great spots are Junctions, like one I nicknamed “Gepps X”. It does bring to together a concentration of fish. Even if only a relatively short time at the right time of tide. You can even catch YFW by hand at night in these narrow and restricted spaces.
    Google satellite images are the most useful tool you have to help you find the spots and plan your strategy for the incoming and outgoing tide.

    ~  Fish move into the channels of the Samphire beds
    OPPORTUNISTS
    This has nothing to do with the terrain. Try casting lures around feeding Eagle Rays on the sandflats.
    The YFW often hang around feeding Rays hoping to pounce on food that the Ray has dislodged.
    They are in a switched on and opportunistic feeding mode, ready to pounce.
    Just offer them your lure instead! This has worked well on a few occasion.
    And in the better years now past, when the YFW biomass was not that badly decimated by the pro netting activities, they would also hang around swimmers on metro beaches, in the hope of some dislodged food.
    .
     
     
    ~   A nice Catch wading for YFW
    As keen Hunters and Gathers, we always need to stay alert to and aware of all the features in the fish’s habitats and how they will effect our catch rate.
    Tight lines all.
    Cheers, Des
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    Des got a reaction from scorpion in DODGY DAYS   
    Fished the dodge tide on Saturday. 

    Unfortunately the wind and air pressure conspired to negate what little water movement there was. Rather than accentuate it which is what I was expecting. 
    Nonetheless got 16 from 32 to 40cm. Sunday was a blow out !
     


     
     

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    Des got a reaction from Crowky in WOE BETIDE ME   
    I had a disastrous day last week and could only manage one Yellow Fin Whiting all day. I got the tide and the weather conditions all wrong.
    I was fortunate to realise the error and managed to back it up the following day by relocating my fishing to a spot better suited to the tide and weather and finished with a bag of 20 large YFW on surface lures.
    .
    The sandflats of the upper SA Gulfs are a dynamic environment and ecosystem with many a variable factor that affects fishing. It keeps you thinking. Keeps you on your toes! And we don’t always get it right!
    One of the most dynamic and important factors on these sandflats are the tides.
    And Beware! tides also are, the greatest danger for a novice fishing these areas !
    Knowing what the tide will do on any particular day is essential.
    Every spot has different characteristics, where the same tide will behave differently.
    For a successful fishing trip to these sandflats, you need to consider the tide along with the weather on the day. You then select the most suitable spot for those tides and those conditions.
    My recent trip to the upper St.V Gulf clearly illustrated this.
    .
    On Day 1:
    It went terribly wrong. The predicted tide was a slow steady run out all day. That did not happen. The spot was a wide sandflat. A small tide across a wide space means a slow steady water flow. That has a lot of fish lingering over the soft nipper beds. Unfortunately an unpredicted drop in air pressure and SW winds far stronger than forecast pushed against the flow and held the water at a standstill.
    No flow no fish. I only ended up catching the one fish on Day 1.
    .
    On Day 2:
    The tides and weather were very similar to the previous day. Having reconsidered the factors at play. I moved to another spot. The location was narrower, more restricted & channeled sandflat squeezed between a mangrove wall and the weedline.

    The tide flow here was quicker moving through this restricted space. And the fish were a lot more responsive. I finished with a bag of 20 quality large Yellow Fin Whiting.

    The Sugapen 95 was the most successful lure. And Zipbaits Fakie Dog DS70 took a few.

     
    For a successful day of YFW fishing on the sandflats you need to be aware of all the tide and water flow factors.
    .
    GULF SHAPE, TIDE ENTRY, WINDS & TIDAL FLOWS
    I do most of my fishing in the Gulf St Vincent. So this post will focus on the tidal influences on the Gulf of St Vincent Sandflats.
    The very shape of the St V Gulf affects the tides in the gulf.
    The first factor are the openings to the gulfs and their orientations.
    To the East of K.I. the Backstairs Passage. A narrow and very restrictive entrance to the gulf. Not much water can flow through that passage. Although the tide that does, races through at a great rate.
    On the West side is Investigator Strait. Which is considerably wider and the main entry point for the tide in St V Gulf tide.
    If you study the tide times in the gulf, the tide arrives earlier on western side ports. This western orientation of the main gulf opening, has a major impact on tides when a SW wind blows. The SW wind or storm surge forces a lot more water up the gulf than any other wind. That will increase the tide height, considerably far more than the forecast height.
    And the opposite also applies. A NE wind will force water out of the gulf, dropping the actual tide to lower than forecast.
     

    Air pressure adds a compounding factor. A lower Air pressure draws up more water and a high air pressure will force water out.
    Our Afternoon Sea breezes (occasional Gale) also act similar to a SW wind. It forces more water up the gulf and increases the tide height. Particularly in the upper gulfs.
    .
    So if you have ever arrived at a sandflats location expecting the tide to be where you thought it should be … and it is NOT. Reconsider the above factors.
    Danger is present, should these conditions come into play whilst you are out a kilometre away from the safe shore. A change in conditions can have the tide come in far faster than you have expected.
    .
    Our gulfs narrow at their northern ends. This amplifies any tide movement. In the constricted space of the upper gulf the tide has no where to go but up. Check the high tide on the same day.  A Pt. Adelaide 2.60 mt tide, will be a 3.90 mt tide at Pt Wakefield. So in the upper gulfs the effect from any of the above variables will be amplified. Stay alert! And factor it into your fishing.

    TERRAIN, & STAGE OF TIDE
    Narrow areas will increase the height and speed of tide. Wider areas the reverse. This may assist or hinder our fishing depending on the weather and tide on the day.
    .
    It is important to know your spot and its height in regards to the low water mark.
    Beware the elevated sand flats. If the tide at a spot, like Bald Hill Beach, arrives 3 hours after low, then you are obviously on the higher ground on an elevated sandflat. When the tide arrives here, it arrives at the fastest period of tide flow. Many fisherman are caught and taken by surprise in these locations.
    .
    Know the “RULE of TWELFTHS” .  How much water comes in and when. How much more will be coming in. The Flow rate of the tide in that hour. So you can decide; do you sit it out there and keep fishing or get out of there quickly.
    .
    THE RULE OF TWELFTHS FOR TIDE MOVEMENTS:
    - Based on the most frequent 6 hourly tide cycle experienced.
    .
    If we Start at LOW Tide.
    There is no movement. 100% of the water movement is yet to come in.
    .
    1 HOUR after Low Tide:
    - 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 7% of the tide has moved in, during this hour.
    - 93% of the water is yet to come
    .
    2 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 25% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 75% of the water is yet to come
    .
    3 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The first of the fastest 2 hours of movement.
    - 50% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 50% of the water is yet to come
    .
    4 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The second of the fastest 2 hrs of movement.
    - 75% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 25% of the water is yet to come
    .
    5 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 93% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 7% of the water is yet to come
    .
    6 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - the last 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 100% of the tide has moved in, at the end of this hour.
    - No more water to come in. This is the top of the tide.
    .
    There have been a few occasions, when I have been counting the minutes and calculating the tide, whilst I was stranded out on a bank with water too deep to cross all around me.
    Hopefully your sandflats fishing can be much more successful armed with the knowledge of these variables and their effects on your fishing.
    .
    Cheers and Tight lines, Des
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    Des reacted to TEABAG in WOE BETIDE ME   
    Well done. Really appreciated the information in your article.
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    Des got a reaction from Bilbobaggins in WOE BETIDE ME   
    I had a disastrous day last week and could only manage one Yellow Fin Whiting all day. I got the tide and the weather conditions all wrong.
    I was fortunate to realise the error and managed to back it up the following day by relocating my fishing to a spot better suited to the tide and weather and finished with a bag of 20 large YFW on surface lures.
    .
    The sandflats of the upper SA Gulfs are a dynamic environment and ecosystem with many a variable factor that affects fishing. It keeps you thinking. Keeps you on your toes! And we don’t always get it right!
    One of the most dynamic and important factors on these sandflats are the tides.
    And Beware! tides also are, the greatest danger for a novice fishing these areas !
    Knowing what the tide will do on any particular day is essential.
    Every spot has different characteristics, where the same tide will behave differently.
    For a successful fishing trip to these sandflats, you need to consider the tide along with the weather on the day. You then select the most suitable spot for those tides and those conditions.
    My recent trip to the upper St.V Gulf clearly illustrated this.
    .
    On Day 1:
    It went terribly wrong. The predicted tide was a slow steady run out all day. That did not happen. The spot was a wide sandflat. A small tide across a wide space means a slow steady water flow. That has a lot of fish lingering over the soft nipper beds. Unfortunately an unpredicted drop in air pressure and SW winds far stronger than forecast pushed against the flow and held the water at a standstill.
    No flow no fish. I only ended up catching the one fish on Day 1.
    .
    On Day 2:
    The tides and weather were very similar to the previous day. Having reconsidered the factors at play. I moved to another spot. The location was narrower, more restricted & channeled sandflat squeezed between a mangrove wall and the weedline.

    The tide flow here was quicker moving through this restricted space. And the fish were a lot more responsive. I finished with a bag of 20 quality large Yellow Fin Whiting.

    The Sugapen 95 was the most successful lure. And Zipbaits Fakie Dog DS70 took a few.

     
    For a successful day of YFW fishing on the sandflats you need to be aware of all the tide and water flow factors.
    .
    GULF SHAPE, TIDE ENTRY, WINDS & TIDAL FLOWS
    I do most of my fishing in the Gulf St Vincent. So this post will focus on the tidal influences on the Gulf of St Vincent Sandflats.
    The very shape of the St V Gulf affects the tides in the gulf.
    The first factor are the openings to the gulfs and their orientations.
    To the East of K.I. the Backstairs Passage. A narrow and very restrictive entrance to the gulf. Not much water can flow through that passage. Although the tide that does, races through at a great rate.
    On the West side is Investigator Strait. Which is considerably wider and the main entry point for the tide in St V Gulf tide.
    If you study the tide times in the gulf, the tide arrives earlier on western side ports. This western orientation of the main gulf opening, has a major impact on tides when a SW wind blows. The SW wind or storm surge forces a lot more water up the gulf than any other wind. That will increase the tide height, considerably far more than the forecast height.
    And the opposite also applies. A NE wind will force water out of the gulf, dropping the actual tide to lower than forecast.
     

    Air pressure adds a compounding factor. A lower Air pressure draws up more water and a high air pressure will force water out.
    Our Afternoon Sea breezes (occasional Gale) also act similar to a SW wind. It forces more water up the gulf and increases the tide height. Particularly in the upper gulfs.
    .
    So if you have ever arrived at a sandflats location expecting the tide to be where you thought it should be … and it is NOT. Reconsider the above factors.
    Danger is present, should these conditions come into play whilst you are out a kilometre away from the safe shore. A change in conditions can have the tide come in far faster than you have expected.
    .
    Our gulfs narrow at their northern ends. This amplifies any tide movement. In the constricted space of the upper gulf the tide has no where to go but up. Check the high tide on the same day.  A Pt. Adelaide 2.60 mt tide, will be a 3.90 mt tide at Pt Wakefield. So in the upper gulfs the effect from any of the above variables will be amplified. Stay alert! And factor it into your fishing.

    TERRAIN, & STAGE OF TIDE
    Narrow areas will increase the height and speed of tide. Wider areas the reverse. This may assist or hinder our fishing depending on the weather and tide on the day.
    .
    It is important to know your spot and its height in regards to the low water mark.
    Beware the elevated sand flats. If the tide at a spot, like Bald Hill Beach, arrives 3 hours after low, then you are obviously on the higher ground on an elevated sandflat. When the tide arrives here, it arrives at the fastest period of tide flow. Many fisherman are caught and taken by surprise in these locations.
    .
    Know the “RULE of TWELFTHS” .  How much water comes in and when. How much more will be coming in. The Flow rate of the tide in that hour. So you can decide; do you sit it out there and keep fishing or get out of there quickly.
    .
    THE RULE OF TWELFTHS FOR TIDE MOVEMENTS:
    - Based on the most frequent 6 hourly tide cycle experienced.
    .
    If we Start at LOW Tide.
    There is no movement. 100% of the water movement is yet to come in.
    .
    1 HOUR after Low Tide:
    - 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 7% of the tide has moved in, during this hour.
    - 93% of the water is yet to come
    .
    2 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 25% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 75% of the water is yet to come
    .
    3 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The first of the fastest 2 hours of movement.
    - 50% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 50% of the water is yet to come
    .
    4 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The second of the fastest 2 hrs of movement.
    - 75% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 25% of the water is yet to come
    .
    5 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 93% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 7% of the water is yet to come
    .
    6 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - the last 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 100% of the tide has moved in, at the end of this hour.
    - No more water to come in. This is the top of the tide.
    .
    There have been a few occasions, when I have been counting the minutes and calculating the tide, whilst I was stranded out on a bank with water too deep to cross all around me.
    Hopefully your sandflats fishing can be much more successful armed with the knowledge of these variables and their effects on your fishing.
    .
    Cheers and Tight lines, Des
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    Des reacted to FECB in WOE BETIDE ME   
    Many thanks Des for another most informative post.
    I'm filing each of your blog entries and keeping them as a valuable resource to use when I'm able to "get back to it".
    Cheers Frank, B
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    Des reacted to Meppstas in WOE BETIDE ME   
    That's a great article Des and very helpful to those who venture the tidal flats that's for sure. I for one got caught out on an incoming tide off Port Gawler many, many years ago while fishing for Flathead, had to swim across a few deep gutters, wasn't feeling all that comfortable crossing them either. 
    cheers Adrian
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    Des got a reaction from HB tragic in WOE BETIDE ME   
    I had a disastrous day last week and could only manage one Yellow Fin Whiting all day. I got the tide and the weather conditions all wrong.
    I was fortunate to realise the error and managed to back it up the following day by relocating my fishing to a spot better suited to the tide and weather and finished with a bag of 20 large YFW on surface lures.
    .
    The sandflats of the upper SA Gulfs are a dynamic environment and ecosystem with many a variable factor that affects fishing. It keeps you thinking. Keeps you on your toes! And we don’t always get it right!
    One of the most dynamic and important factors on these sandflats are the tides.
    And Beware! tides also are, the greatest danger for a novice fishing these areas !
    Knowing what the tide will do on any particular day is essential.
    Every spot has different characteristics, where the same tide will behave differently.
    For a successful fishing trip to these sandflats, you need to consider the tide along with the weather on the day. You then select the most suitable spot for those tides and those conditions.
    My recent trip to the upper St.V Gulf clearly illustrated this.
    .
    On Day 1:
    It went terribly wrong. The predicted tide was a slow steady run out all day. That did not happen. The spot was a wide sandflat. A small tide across a wide space means a slow steady water flow. That has a lot of fish lingering over the soft nipper beds. Unfortunately an unpredicted drop in air pressure and SW winds far stronger than forecast pushed against the flow and held the water at a standstill.
    No flow no fish. I only ended up catching the one fish on Day 1.
    .
    On Day 2:
    The tides and weather were very similar to the previous day. Having reconsidered the factors at play. I moved to another spot. The location was narrower, more restricted & channeled sandflat squeezed between a mangrove wall and the weedline.

    The tide flow here was quicker moving through this restricted space. And the fish were a lot more responsive. I finished with a bag of 20 quality large Yellow Fin Whiting.

    The Sugapen 95 was the most successful lure. And Zipbaits Fakie Dog DS70 took a few.

     
    For a successful day of YFW fishing on the sandflats you need to be aware of all the tide and water flow factors.
    .
    GULF SHAPE, TIDE ENTRY, WINDS & TIDAL FLOWS
    I do most of my fishing in the Gulf St Vincent. So this post will focus on the tidal influences on the Gulf of St Vincent Sandflats.
    The very shape of the St V Gulf affects the tides in the gulf.
    The first factor are the openings to the gulfs and their orientations.
    To the East of K.I. the Backstairs Passage. A narrow and very restrictive entrance to the gulf. Not much water can flow through that passage. Although the tide that does, races through at a great rate.
    On the West side is Investigator Strait. Which is considerably wider and the main entry point for the tide in St V Gulf tide.
    If you study the tide times in the gulf, the tide arrives earlier on western side ports. This western orientation of the main gulf opening, has a major impact on tides when a SW wind blows. The SW wind or storm surge forces a lot more water up the gulf than any other wind. That will increase the tide height, considerably far more than the forecast height.
    And the opposite also applies. A NE wind will force water out of the gulf, dropping the actual tide to lower than forecast.
     

    Air pressure adds a compounding factor. A lower Air pressure draws up more water and a high air pressure will force water out.
    Our Afternoon Sea breezes (occasional Gale) also act similar to a SW wind. It forces more water up the gulf and increases the tide height. Particularly in the upper gulfs.
    .
    So if you have ever arrived at a sandflats location expecting the tide to be where you thought it should be … and it is NOT. Reconsider the above factors.
    Danger is present, should these conditions come into play whilst you are out a kilometre away from the safe shore. A change in conditions can have the tide come in far faster than you have expected.
    .
    Our gulfs narrow at their northern ends. This amplifies any tide movement. In the constricted space of the upper gulf the tide has no where to go but up. Check the high tide on the same day.  A Pt. Adelaide 2.60 mt tide, will be a 3.90 mt tide at Pt Wakefield. So in the upper gulfs the effect from any of the above variables will be amplified. Stay alert! And factor it into your fishing.

    TERRAIN, & STAGE OF TIDE
    Narrow areas will increase the height and speed of tide. Wider areas the reverse. This may assist or hinder our fishing depending on the weather and tide on the day.
    .
    It is important to know your spot and its height in regards to the low water mark.
    Beware the elevated sand flats. If the tide at a spot, like Bald Hill Beach, arrives 3 hours after low, then you are obviously on the higher ground on an elevated sandflat. When the tide arrives here, it arrives at the fastest period of tide flow. Many fisherman are caught and taken by surprise in these locations.
    .
    Know the “RULE of TWELFTHS” .  How much water comes in and when. How much more will be coming in. The Flow rate of the tide in that hour. So you can decide; do you sit it out there and keep fishing or get out of there quickly.
    .
    THE RULE OF TWELFTHS FOR TIDE MOVEMENTS:
    - Based on the most frequent 6 hourly tide cycle experienced.
    .
    If we Start at LOW Tide.
    There is no movement. 100% of the water movement is yet to come in.
    .
    1 HOUR after Low Tide:
    - 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 7% of the tide has moved in, during this hour.
    - 93% of the water is yet to come
    .
    2 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 25% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 75% of the water is yet to come
    .
    3 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The first of the fastest 2 hours of movement.
    - 50% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 50% of the water is yet to come
    .
    4 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The second of the fastest 2 hrs of movement.
    - 75% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 25% of the water is yet to come
    .
    5 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 93% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 7% of the water is yet to come
    .
    6 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - the last 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 100% of the tide has moved in, at the end of this hour.
    - No more water to come in. This is the top of the tide.
    .
    There have been a few occasions, when I have been counting the minutes and calculating the tide, whilst I was stranded out on a bank with water too deep to cross all around me.
    Hopefully your sandflats fishing can be much more successful armed with the knowledge of these variables and their effects on your fishing.
    .
    Cheers and Tight lines, Des
  10. Like
    Des got a reaction from Meppstas in WOE BETIDE ME   
    I had a disastrous day last week and could only manage one Yellow Fin Whiting all day. I got the tide and the weather conditions all wrong.
    I was fortunate to realise the error and managed to back it up the following day by relocating my fishing to a spot better suited to the tide and weather and finished with a bag of 20 large YFW on surface lures.
    .
    The sandflats of the upper SA Gulfs are a dynamic environment and ecosystem with many a variable factor that affects fishing. It keeps you thinking. Keeps you on your toes! And we don’t always get it right!
    One of the most dynamic and important factors on these sandflats are the tides.
    And Beware! tides also are, the greatest danger for a novice fishing these areas !
    Knowing what the tide will do on any particular day is essential.
    Every spot has different characteristics, where the same tide will behave differently.
    For a successful fishing trip to these sandflats, you need to consider the tide along with the weather on the day. You then select the most suitable spot for those tides and those conditions.
    My recent trip to the upper St.V Gulf clearly illustrated this.
    .
    On Day 1:
    It went terribly wrong. The predicted tide was a slow steady run out all day. That did not happen. The spot was a wide sandflat. A small tide across a wide space means a slow steady water flow. That has a lot of fish lingering over the soft nipper beds. Unfortunately an unpredicted drop in air pressure and SW winds far stronger than forecast pushed against the flow and held the water at a standstill.
    No flow no fish. I only ended up catching the one fish on Day 1.
    .
    On Day 2:
    The tides and weather were very similar to the previous day. Having reconsidered the factors at play. I moved to another spot. The location was narrower, more restricted & channeled sandflat squeezed between a mangrove wall and the weedline.

    The tide flow here was quicker moving through this restricted space. And the fish were a lot more responsive. I finished with a bag of 20 quality large Yellow Fin Whiting.

    The Sugapen 95 was the most successful lure. And Zipbaits Fakie Dog DS70 took a few.

     
    For a successful day of YFW fishing on the sandflats you need to be aware of all the tide and water flow factors.
    .
    GULF SHAPE, TIDE ENTRY, WINDS & TIDAL FLOWS
    I do most of my fishing in the Gulf St Vincent. So this post will focus on the tidal influences on the Gulf of St Vincent Sandflats.
    The very shape of the St V Gulf affects the tides in the gulf.
    The first factor are the openings to the gulfs and their orientations.
    To the East of K.I. the Backstairs Passage. A narrow and very restrictive entrance to the gulf. Not much water can flow through that passage. Although the tide that does, races through at a great rate.
    On the West side is Investigator Strait. Which is considerably wider and the main entry point for the tide in St V Gulf tide.
    If you study the tide times in the gulf, the tide arrives earlier on western side ports. This western orientation of the main gulf opening, has a major impact on tides when a SW wind blows. The SW wind or storm surge forces a lot more water up the gulf than any other wind. That will increase the tide height, considerably far more than the forecast height.
    And the opposite also applies. A NE wind will force water out of the gulf, dropping the actual tide to lower than forecast.
     

    Air pressure adds a compounding factor. A lower Air pressure draws up more water and a high air pressure will force water out.
    Our Afternoon Sea breezes (occasional Gale) also act similar to a SW wind. It forces more water up the gulf and increases the tide height. Particularly in the upper gulfs.
    .
    So if you have ever arrived at a sandflats location expecting the tide to be where you thought it should be … and it is NOT. Reconsider the above factors.
    Danger is present, should these conditions come into play whilst you are out a kilometre away from the safe shore. A change in conditions can have the tide come in far faster than you have expected.
    .
    Our gulfs narrow at their northern ends. This amplifies any tide movement. In the constricted space of the upper gulf the tide has no where to go but up. Check the high tide on the same day.  A Pt. Adelaide 2.60 mt tide, will be a 3.90 mt tide at Pt Wakefield. So in the upper gulfs the effect from any of the above variables will be amplified. Stay alert! And factor it into your fishing.

    TERRAIN, & STAGE OF TIDE
    Narrow areas will increase the height and speed of tide. Wider areas the reverse. This may assist or hinder our fishing depending on the weather and tide on the day.
    .
    It is important to know your spot and its height in regards to the low water mark.
    Beware the elevated sand flats. If the tide at a spot, like Bald Hill Beach, arrives 3 hours after low, then you are obviously on the higher ground on an elevated sandflat. When the tide arrives here, it arrives at the fastest period of tide flow. Many fisherman are caught and taken by surprise in these locations.
    .
    Know the “RULE of TWELFTHS” .  How much water comes in and when. How much more will be coming in. The Flow rate of the tide in that hour. So you can decide; do you sit it out there and keep fishing or get out of there quickly.
    .
    THE RULE OF TWELFTHS FOR TIDE MOVEMENTS:
    - Based on the most frequent 6 hourly tide cycle experienced.
    .
    If we Start at LOW Tide.
    There is no movement. 100% of the water movement is yet to come in.
    .
    1 HOUR after Low Tide:
    - 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 7% of the tide has moved in, during this hour.
    - 93% of the water is yet to come
    .
    2 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 25% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 75% of the water is yet to come
    .
    3 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The first of the fastest 2 hours of movement.
    - 50% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 50% of the water is yet to come
    .
    4 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The second of the fastest 2 hrs of movement.
    - 75% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 25% of the water is yet to come
    .
    5 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 93% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 7% of the water is yet to come
    .
    6 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - the last 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 100% of the tide has moved in, at the end of this hour.
    - No more water to come in. This is the top of the tide.
    .
    There have been a few occasions, when I have been counting the minutes and calculating the tide, whilst I was stranded out on a bank with water too deep to cross all around me.
    Hopefully your sandflats fishing can be much more successful armed with the knowledge of these variables and their effects on your fishing.
    .
    Cheers and Tight lines, Des
  11. Like
    Des got a reaction from BJSlick in WOE BETIDE ME   
    I had a disastrous day last week and could only manage one Yellow Fin Whiting all day. I got the tide and the weather conditions all wrong.
    I was fortunate to realise the error and managed to back it up the following day by relocating my fishing to a spot better suited to the tide and weather and finished with a bag of 20 large YFW on surface lures.
    .
    The sandflats of the upper SA Gulfs are a dynamic environment and ecosystem with many a variable factor that affects fishing. It keeps you thinking. Keeps you on your toes! And we don’t always get it right!
    One of the most dynamic and important factors on these sandflats are the tides.
    And Beware! tides also are, the greatest danger for a novice fishing these areas !
    Knowing what the tide will do on any particular day is essential.
    Every spot has different characteristics, where the same tide will behave differently.
    For a successful fishing trip to these sandflats, you need to consider the tide along with the weather on the day. You then select the most suitable spot for those tides and those conditions.
    My recent trip to the upper St.V Gulf clearly illustrated this.
    .
    On Day 1:
    It went terribly wrong. The predicted tide was a slow steady run out all day. That did not happen. The spot was a wide sandflat. A small tide across a wide space means a slow steady water flow. That has a lot of fish lingering over the soft nipper beds. Unfortunately an unpredicted drop in air pressure and SW winds far stronger than forecast pushed against the flow and held the water at a standstill.
    No flow no fish. I only ended up catching the one fish on Day 1.
    .
    On Day 2:
    The tides and weather were very similar to the previous day. Having reconsidered the factors at play. I moved to another spot. The location was narrower, more restricted & channeled sandflat squeezed between a mangrove wall and the weedline.

    The tide flow here was quicker moving through this restricted space. And the fish were a lot more responsive. I finished with a bag of 20 quality large Yellow Fin Whiting.

    The Sugapen 95 was the most successful lure. And Zipbaits Fakie Dog DS70 took a few.

     
    For a successful day of YFW fishing on the sandflats you need to be aware of all the tide and water flow factors.
    .
    GULF SHAPE, TIDE ENTRY, WINDS & TIDAL FLOWS
    I do most of my fishing in the Gulf St Vincent. So this post will focus on the tidal influences on the Gulf of St Vincent Sandflats.
    The very shape of the St V Gulf affects the tides in the gulf.
    The first factor are the openings to the gulfs and their orientations.
    To the East of K.I. the Backstairs Passage. A narrow and very restrictive entrance to the gulf. Not much water can flow through that passage. Although the tide that does, races through at a great rate.
    On the West side is Investigator Strait. Which is considerably wider and the main entry point for the tide in St V Gulf tide.
    If you study the tide times in the gulf, the tide arrives earlier on western side ports. This western orientation of the main gulf opening, has a major impact on tides when a SW wind blows. The SW wind or storm surge forces a lot more water up the gulf than any other wind. That will increase the tide height, considerably far more than the forecast height.
    And the opposite also applies. A NE wind will force water out of the gulf, dropping the actual tide to lower than forecast.
     

    Air pressure adds a compounding factor. A lower Air pressure draws up more water and a high air pressure will force water out.
    Our Afternoon Sea breezes (occasional Gale) also act similar to a SW wind. It forces more water up the gulf and increases the tide height. Particularly in the upper gulfs.
    .
    So if you have ever arrived at a sandflats location expecting the tide to be where you thought it should be … and it is NOT. Reconsider the above factors.
    Danger is present, should these conditions come into play whilst you are out a kilometre away from the safe shore. A change in conditions can have the tide come in far faster than you have expected.
    .
    Our gulfs narrow at their northern ends. This amplifies any tide movement. In the constricted space of the upper gulf the tide has no where to go but up. Check the high tide on the same day.  A Pt. Adelaide 2.60 mt tide, will be a 3.90 mt tide at Pt Wakefield. So in the upper gulfs the effect from any of the above variables will be amplified. Stay alert! And factor it into your fishing.

    TERRAIN, & STAGE OF TIDE
    Narrow areas will increase the height and speed of tide. Wider areas the reverse. This may assist or hinder our fishing depending on the weather and tide on the day.
    .
    It is important to know your spot and its height in regards to the low water mark.
    Beware the elevated sand flats. If the tide at a spot, like Bald Hill Beach, arrives 3 hours after low, then you are obviously on the higher ground on an elevated sandflat. When the tide arrives here, it arrives at the fastest period of tide flow. Many fisherman are caught and taken by surprise in these locations.
    .
    Know the “RULE of TWELFTHS” .  How much water comes in and when. How much more will be coming in. The Flow rate of the tide in that hour. So you can decide; do you sit it out there and keep fishing or get out of there quickly.
    .
    THE RULE OF TWELFTHS FOR TIDE MOVEMENTS:
    - Based on the most frequent 6 hourly tide cycle experienced.
    .
    If we Start at LOW Tide.
    There is no movement. 100% of the water movement is yet to come in.
    .
    1 HOUR after Low Tide:
    - 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 7% of the tide has moved in, during this hour.
    - 93% of the water is yet to come
    .
    2 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 25% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 75% of the water is yet to come
    .
    3 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The first of the fastest 2 hours of movement.
    - 50% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 50% of the water is yet to come
    .
    4 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The second of the fastest 2 hrs of movement.
    - 75% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 25% of the water is yet to come
    .
    5 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 93% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 7% of the water is yet to come
    .
    6 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - the last 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 100% of the tide has moved in, at the end of this hour.
    - No more water to come in. This is the top of the tide.
    .
    There have been a few occasions, when I have been counting the minutes and calculating the tide, whilst I was stranded out on a bank with water too deep to cross all around me.
    Hopefully your sandflats fishing can be much more successful armed with the knowledge of these variables and their effects on your fishing.
    .
    Cheers and Tight lines, Des
  12. Thanks
    Des got a reaction from Aff in WOE BETIDE ME   
    I had a disastrous day last week and could only manage one Yellow Fin Whiting all day. I got the tide and the weather conditions all wrong.
    I was fortunate to realise the error and managed to back it up the following day by relocating my fishing to a spot better suited to the tide and weather and finished with a bag of 20 large YFW on surface lures.
    .
    The sandflats of the upper SA Gulfs are a dynamic environment and ecosystem with many a variable factor that affects fishing. It keeps you thinking. Keeps you on your toes! And we don’t always get it right!
    One of the most dynamic and important factors on these sandflats are the tides.
    And Beware! tides also are, the greatest danger for a novice fishing these areas !
    Knowing what the tide will do on any particular day is essential.
    Every spot has different characteristics, where the same tide will behave differently.
    For a successful fishing trip to these sandflats, you need to consider the tide along with the weather on the day. You then select the most suitable spot for those tides and those conditions.
    My recent trip to the upper St.V Gulf clearly illustrated this.
    .
    On Day 1:
    It went terribly wrong. The predicted tide was a slow steady run out all day. That did not happen. The spot was a wide sandflat. A small tide across a wide space means a slow steady water flow. That has a lot of fish lingering over the soft nipper beds. Unfortunately an unpredicted drop in air pressure and SW winds far stronger than forecast pushed against the flow and held the water at a standstill.
    No flow no fish. I only ended up catching the one fish on Day 1.
    .
    On Day 2:
    The tides and weather were very similar to the previous day. Having reconsidered the factors at play. I moved to another spot. The location was narrower, more restricted & channeled sandflat squeezed between a mangrove wall and the weedline.

    The tide flow here was quicker moving through this restricted space. And the fish were a lot more responsive. I finished with a bag of 20 quality large Yellow Fin Whiting.

    The Sugapen 95 was the most successful lure. And Zipbaits Fakie Dog DS70 took a few.

     
    For a successful day of YFW fishing on the sandflats you need to be aware of all the tide and water flow factors.
    .
    GULF SHAPE, TIDE ENTRY, WINDS & TIDAL FLOWS
    I do most of my fishing in the Gulf St Vincent. So this post will focus on the tidal influences on the Gulf of St Vincent Sandflats.
    The very shape of the St V Gulf affects the tides in the gulf.
    The first factor are the openings to the gulfs and their orientations.
    To the East of K.I. the Backstairs Passage. A narrow and very restrictive entrance to the gulf. Not much water can flow through that passage. Although the tide that does, races through at a great rate.
    On the West side is Investigator Strait. Which is considerably wider and the main entry point for the tide in St V Gulf tide.
    If you study the tide times in the gulf, the tide arrives earlier on western side ports. This western orientation of the main gulf opening, has a major impact on tides when a SW wind blows. The SW wind or storm surge forces a lot more water up the gulf than any other wind. That will increase the tide height, considerably far more than the forecast height.
    And the opposite also applies. A NE wind will force water out of the gulf, dropping the actual tide to lower than forecast.
     

    Air pressure adds a compounding factor. A lower Air pressure draws up more water and a high air pressure will force water out.
    Our Afternoon Sea breezes (occasional Gale) also act similar to a SW wind. It forces more water up the gulf and increases the tide height. Particularly in the upper gulfs.
    .
    So if you have ever arrived at a sandflats location expecting the tide to be where you thought it should be … and it is NOT. Reconsider the above factors.
    Danger is present, should these conditions come into play whilst you are out a kilometre away from the safe shore. A change in conditions can have the tide come in far faster than you have expected.
    .
    Our gulfs narrow at their northern ends. This amplifies any tide movement. In the constricted space of the upper gulf the tide has no where to go but up. Check the high tide on the same day.  A Pt. Adelaide 2.60 mt tide, will be a 3.90 mt tide at Pt Wakefield. So in the upper gulfs the effect from any of the above variables will be amplified. Stay alert! And factor it into your fishing.

    TERRAIN, & STAGE OF TIDE
    Narrow areas will increase the height and speed of tide. Wider areas the reverse. This may assist or hinder our fishing depending on the weather and tide on the day.
    .
    It is important to know your spot and its height in regards to the low water mark.
    Beware the elevated sand flats. If the tide at a spot, like Bald Hill Beach, arrives 3 hours after low, then you are obviously on the higher ground on an elevated sandflat. When the tide arrives here, it arrives at the fastest period of tide flow. Many fisherman are caught and taken by surprise in these locations.
    .
    Know the “RULE of TWELFTHS” .  How much water comes in and when. How much more will be coming in. The Flow rate of the tide in that hour. So you can decide; do you sit it out there and keep fishing or get out of there quickly.
    .
    THE RULE OF TWELFTHS FOR TIDE MOVEMENTS:
    - Based on the most frequent 6 hourly tide cycle experienced.
    .
    If we Start at LOW Tide.
    There is no movement. 100% of the water movement is yet to come in.
    .
    1 HOUR after Low Tide:
    - 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 7% of the tide has moved in, during this hour.
    - 93% of the water is yet to come
    .
    2 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 25% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 75% of the water is yet to come
    .
    3 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The first of the fastest 2 hours of movement.
    - 50% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 50% of the water is yet to come
    .
    4 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The second of the fastest 2 hrs of movement.
    - 75% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 25% of the water is yet to come
    .
    5 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 93% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 7% of the water is yet to come
    .
    6 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - the last 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 100% of the tide has moved in, at the end of this hour.
    - No more water to come in. This is the top of the tide.
    .
    There have been a few occasions, when I have been counting the minutes and calculating the tide, whilst I was stranded out on a bank with water too deep to cross all around me.
    Hopefully your sandflats fishing can be much more successful armed with the knowledge of these variables and their effects on your fishing.
    .
    Cheers and Tight lines, Des
  13. Like
    Des got a reaction from bjorn2fish in WOE BETIDE ME   
    I had a disastrous day last week and could only manage one Yellow Fin Whiting all day. I got the tide and the weather conditions all wrong.
    I was fortunate to realise the error and managed to back it up the following day by relocating my fishing to a spot better suited to the tide and weather and finished with a bag of 20 large YFW on surface lures.
    .
    The sandflats of the upper SA Gulfs are a dynamic environment and ecosystem with many a variable factor that affects fishing. It keeps you thinking. Keeps you on your toes! And we don’t always get it right!
    One of the most dynamic and important factors on these sandflats are the tides.
    And Beware! tides also are, the greatest danger for a novice fishing these areas !
    Knowing what the tide will do on any particular day is essential.
    Every spot has different characteristics, where the same tide will behave differently.
    For a successful fishing trip to these sandflats, you need to consider the tide along with the weather on the day. You then select the most suitable spot for those tides and those conditions.
    My recent trip to the upper St.V Gulf clearly illustrated this.
    .
    On Day 1:
    It went terribly wrong. The predicted tide was a slow steady run out all day. That did not happen. The spot was a wide sandflat. A small tide across a wide space means a slow steady water flow. That has a lot of fish lingering over the soft nipper beds. Unfortunately an unpredicted drop in air pressure and SW winds far stronger than forecast pushed against the flow and held the water at a standstill.
    No flow no fish. I only ended up catching the one fish on Day 1.
    .
    On Day 2:
    The tides and weather were very similar to the previous day. Having reconsidered the factors at play. I moved to another spot. The location was narrower, more restricted & channeled sandflat squeezed between a mangrove wall and the weedline.

    The tide flow here was quicker moving through this restricted space. And the fish were a lot more responsive. I finished with a bag of 20 quality large Yellow Fin Whiting.

    The Sugapen 95 was the most successful lure. And Zipbaits Fakie Dog DS70 took a few.

     
    For a successful day of YFW fishing on the sandflats you need to be aware of all the tide and water flow factors.
    .
    GULF SHAPE, TIDE ENTRY, WINDS & TIDAL FLOWS
    I do most of my fishing in the Gulf St Vincent. So this post will focus on the tidal influences on the Gulf of St Vincent Sandflats.
    The very shape of the St V Gulf affects the tides in the gulf.
    The first factor are the openings to the gulfs and their orientations.
    To the East of K.I. the Backstairs Passage. A narrow and very restrictive entrance to the gulf. Not much water can flow through that passage. Although the tide that does, races through at a great rate.
    On the West side is Investigator Strait. Which is considerably wider and the main entry point for the tide in St V Gulf tide.
    If you study the tide times in the gulf, the tide arrives earlier on western side ports. This western orientation of the main gulf opening, has a major impact on tides when a SW wind blows. The SW wind or storm surge forces a lot more water up the gulf than any other wind. That will increase the tide height, considerably far more than the forecast height.
    And the opposite also applies. A NE wind will force water out of the gulf, dropping the actual tide to lower than forecast.
     

    Air pressure adds a compounding factor. A lower Air pressure draws up more water and a high air pressure will force water out.
    Our Afternoon Sea breezes (occasional Gale) also act similar to a SW wind. It forces more water up the gulf and increases the tide height. Particularly in the upper gulfs.
    .
    So if you have ever arrived at a sandflats location expecting the tide to be where you thought it should be … and it is NOT. Reconsider the above factors.
    Danger is present, should these conditions come into play whilst you are out a kilometre away from the safe shore. A change in conditions can have the tide come in far faster than you have expected.
    .
    Our gulfs narrow at their northern ends. This amplifies any tide movement. In the constricted space of the upper gulf the tide has no where to go but up. Check the high tide on the same day.  A Pt. Adelaide 2.60 mt tide, will be a 3.90 mt tide at Pt Wakefield. So in the upper gulfs the effect from any of the above variables will be amplified. Stay alert! And factor it into your fishing.

    TERRAIN, & STAGE OF TIDE
    Narrow areas will increase the height and speed of tide. Wider areas the reverse. This may assist or hinder our fishing depending on the weather and tide on the day.
    .
    It is important to know your spot and its height in regards to the low water mark.
    Beware the elevated sand flats. If the tide at a spot, like Bald Hill Beach, arrives 3 hours after low, then you are obviously on the higher ground on an elevated sandflat. When the tide arrives here, it arrives at the fastest period of tide flow. Many fisherman are caught and taken by surprise in these locations.
    .
    Know the “RULE of TWELFTHS” .  How much water comes in and when. How much more will be coming in. The Flow rate of the tide in that hour. So you can decide; do you sit it out there and keep fishing or get out of there quickly.
    .
    THE RULE OF TWELFTHS FOR TIDE MOVEMENTS:
    - Based on the most frequent 6 hourly tide cycle experienced.
    .
    If we Start at LOW Tide.
    There is no movement. 100% of the water movement is yet to come in.
    .
    1 HOUR after Low Tide:
    - 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 7% of the tide has moved in, during this hour.
    - 93% of the water is yet to come
    .
    2 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 25% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 75% of the water is yet to come
    .
    3 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The first of the fastest 2 hours of movement.
    - 50% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 50% of the water is yet to come
    .
    4 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The second of the fastest 2 hrs of movement.
    - 75% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 25% of the water is yet to come
    .
    5 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 93% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 7% of the water is yet to come
    .
    6 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - the last 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 100% of the tide has moved in, at the end of this hour.
    - No more water to come in. This is the top of the tide.
    .
    There have been a few occasions, when I have been counting the minutes and calculating the tide, whilst I was stranded out on a bank with water too deep to cross all around me.
    Hopefully your sandflats fishing can be much more successful armed with the knowledge of these variables and their effects on your fishing.
    .
    Cheers and Tight lines, Des
  14. Like
    Des got a reaction from Wert in WOE BETIDE ME   
    I had a disastrous day last week and could only manage one Yellow Fin Whiting all day. I got the tide and the weather conditions all wrong.
    I was fortunate to realise the error and managed to back it up the following day by relocating my fishing to a spot better suited to the tide and weather and finished with a bag of 20 large YFW on surface lures.
    .
    The sandflats of the upper SA Gulfs are a dynamic environment and ecosystem with many a variable factor that affects fishing. It keeps you thinking. Keeps you on your toes! And we don’t always get it right!
    One of the most dynamic and important factors on these sandflats are the tides.
    And Beware! tides also are, the greatest danger for a novice fishing these areas !
    Knowing what the tide will do on any particular day is essential.
    Every spot has different characteristics, where the same tide will behave differently.
    For a successful fishing trip to these sandflats, you need to consider the tide along with the weather on the day. You then select the most suitable spot for those tides and those conditions.
    My recent trip to the upper St.V Gulf clearly illustrated this.
    .
    On Day 1:
    It went terribly wrong. The predicted tide was a slow steady run out all day. That did not happen. The spot was a wide sandflat. A small tide across a wide space means a slow steady water flow. That has a lot of fish lingering over the soft nipper beds. Unfortunately an unpredicted drop in air pressure and SW winds far stronger than forecast pushed against the flow and held the water at a standstill.
    No flow no fish. I only ended up catching the one fish on Day 1.
    .
    On Day 2:
    The tides and weather were very similar to the previous day. Having reconsidered the factors at play. I moved to another spot. The location was narrower, more restricted & channeled sandflat squeezed between a mangrove wall and the weedline.

    The tide flow here was quicker moving through this restricted space. And the fish were a lot more responsive. I finished with a bag of 20 quality large Yellow Fin Whiting.

    The Sugapen 95 was the most successful lure. And Zipbaits Fakie Dog DS70 took a few.

     
    For a successful day of YFW fishing on the sandflats you need to be aware of all the tide and water flow factors.
    .
    GULF SHAPE, TIDE ENTRY, WINDS & TIDAL FLOWS
    I do most of my fishing in the Gulf St Vincent. So this post will focus on the tidal influences on the Gulf of St Vincent Sandflats.
    The very shape of the St V Gulf affects the tides in the gulf.
    The first factor are the openings to the gulfs and their orientations.
    To the East of K.I. the Backstairs Passage. A narrow and very restrictive entrance to the gulf. Not much water can flow through that passage. Although the tide that does, races through at a great rate.
    On the West side is Investigator Strait. Which is considerably wider and the main entry point for the tide in St V Gulf tide.
    If you study the tide times in the gulf, the tide arrives earlier on western side ports. This western orientation of the main gulf opening, has a major impact on tides when a SW wind blows. The SW wind or storm surge forces a lot more water up the gulf than any other wind. That will increase the tide height, considerably far more than the forecast height.
    And the opposite also applies. A NE wind will force water out of the gulf, dropping the actual tide to lower than forecast.
     

    Air pressure adds a compounding factor. A lower Air pressure draws up more water and a high air pressure will force water out.
    Our Afternoon Sea breezes (occasional Gale) also act similar to a SW wind. It forces more water up the gulf and increases the tide height. Particularly in the upper gulfs.
    .
    So if you have ever arrived at a sandflats location expecting the tide to be where you thought it should be … and it is NOT. Reconsider the above factors.
    Danger is present, should these conditions come into play whilst you are out a kilometre away from the safe shore. A change in conditions can have the tide come in far faster than you have expected.
    .
    Our gulfs narrow at their northern ends. This amplifies any tide movement. In the constricted space of the upper gulf the tide has no where to go but up. Check the high tide on the same day.  A Pt. Adelaide 2.60 mt tide, will be a 3.90 mt tide at Pt Wakefield. So in the upper gulfs the effect from any of the above variables will be amplified. Stay alert! And factor it into your fishing.

    TERRAIN, & STAGE OF TIDE
    Narrow areas will increase the height and speed of tide. Wider areas the reverse. This may assist or hinder our fishing depending on the weather and tide on the day.
    .
    It is important to know your spot and its height in regards to the low water mark.
    Beware the elevated sand flats. If the tide at a spot, like Bald Hill Beach, arrives 3 hours after low, then you are obviously on the higher ground on an elevated sandflat. When the tide arrives here, it arrives at the fastest period of tide flow. Many fisherman are caught and taken by surprise in these locations.
    .
    Know the “RULE of TWELFTHS” .  How much water comes in and when. How much more will be coming in. The Flow rate of the tide in that hour. So you can decide; do you sit it out there and keep fishing or get out of there quickly.
    .
    THE RULE OF TWELFTHS FOR TIDE MOVEMENTS:
    - Based on the most frequent 6 hourly tide cycle experienced.
    .
    If we Start at LOW Tide.
    There is no movement. 100% of the water movement is yet to come in.
    .
    1 HOUR after Low Tide:
    - 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 7% of the tide has moved in, during this hour.
    - 93% of the water is yet to come
    .
    2 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 25% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 75% of the water is yet to come
    .
    3 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The first of the fastest 2 hours of movement.
    - 50% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 50% of the water is yet to come
    .
    4 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The second of the fastest 2 hrs of movement.
    - 75% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 25% of the water is yet to come
    .
    5 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 93% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 7% of the water is yet to come
    .
    6 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - the last 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 100% of the tide has moved in, at the end of this hour.
    - No more water to come in. This is the top of the tide.
    .
    There have been a few occasions, when I have been counting the minutes and calculating the tide, whilst I was stranded out on a bank with water too deep to cross all around me.
    Hopefully your sandflats fishing can be much more successful armed with the knowledge of these variables and their effects on your fishing.
    .
    Cheers and Tight lines, Des
  15. Like
    Des got a reaction from Kelvin in WOE BETIDE ME   
    I had a disastrous day last week and could only manage one Yellow Fin Whiting all day. I got the tide and the weather conditions all wrong.
    I was fortunate to realise the error and managed to back it up the following day by relocating my fishing to a spot better suited to the tide and weather and finished with a bag of 20 large YFW on surface lures.
    .
    The sandflats of the upper SA Gulfs are a dynamic environment and ecosystem with many a variable factor that affects fishing. It keeps you thinking. Keeps you on your toes! And we don’t always get it right!
    One of the most dynamic and important factors on these sandflats are the tides.
    And Beware! tides also are, the greatest danger for a novice fishing these areas !
    Knowing what the tide will do on any particular day is essential.
    Every spot has different characteristics, where the same tide will behave differently.
    For a successful fishing trip to these sandflats, you need to consider the tide along with the weather on the day. You then select the most suitable spot for those tides and those conditions.
    My recent trip to the upper St.V Gulf clearly illustrated this.
    .
    On Day 1:
    It went terribly wrong. The predicted tide was a slow steady run out all day. That did not happen. The spot was a wide sandflat. A small tide across a wide space means a slow steady water flow. That has a lot of fish lingering over the soft nipper beds. Unfortunately an unpredicted drop in air pressure and SW winds far stronger than forecast pushed against the flow and held the water at a standstill.
    No flow no fish. I only ended up catching the one fish on Day 1.
    .
    On Day 2:
    The tides and weather were very similar to the previous day. Having reconsidered the factors at play. I moved to another spot. The location was narrower, more restricted & channeled sandflat squeezed between a mangrove wall and the weedline.

    The tide flow here was quicker moving through this restricted space. And the fish were a lot more responsive. I finished with a bag of 20 quality large Yellow Fin Whiting.

    The Sugapen 95 was the most successful lure. And Zipbaits Fakie Dog DS70 took a few.

     
    For a successful day of YFW fishing on the sandflats you need to be aware of all the tide and water flow factors.
    .
    GULF SHAPE, TIDE ENTRY, WINDS & TIDAL FLOWS
    I do most of my fishing in the Gulf St Vincent. So this post will focus on the tidal influences on the Gulf of St Vincent Sandflats.
    The very shape of the St V Gulf affects the tides in the gulf.
    The first factor are the openings to the gulfs and their orientations.
    To the East of K.I. the Backstairs Passage. A narrow and very restrictive entrance to the gulf. Not much water can flow through that passage. Although the tide that does, races through at a great rate.
    On the West side is Investigator Strait. Which is considerably wider and the main entry point for the tide in St V Gulf tide.
    If you study the tide times in the gulf, the tide arrives earlier on western side ports. This western orientation of the main gulf opening, has a major impact on tides when a SW wind blows. The SW wind or storm surge forces a lot more water up the gulf than any other wind. That will increase the tide height, considerably far more than the forecast height.
    And the opposite also applies. A NE wind will force water out of the gulf, dropping the actual tide to lower than forecast.
     

    Air pressure adds a compounding factor. A lower Air pressure draws up more water and a high air pressure will force water out.
    Our Afternoon Sea breezes (occasional Gale) also act similar to a SW wind. It forces more water up the gulf and increases the tide height. Particularly in the upper gulfs.
    .
    So if you have ever arrived at a sandflats location expecting the tide to be where you thought it should be … and it is NOT. Reconsider the above factors.
    Danger is present, should these conditions come into play whilst you are out a kilometre away from the safe shore. A change in conditions can have the tide come in far faster than you have expected.
    .
    Our gulfs narrow at their northern ends. This amplifies any tide movement. In the constricted space of the upper gulf the tide has no where to go but up. Check the high tide on the same day.  A Pt. Adelaide 2.60 mt tide, will be a 3.90 mt tide at Pt Wakefield. So in the upper gulfs the effect from any of the above variables will be amplified. Stay alert! And factor it into your fishing.

    TERRAIN, & STAGE OF TIDE
    Narrow areas will increase the height and speed of tide. Wider areas the reverse. This may assist or hinder our fishing depending on the weather and tide on the day.
    .
    It is important to know your spot and its height in regards to the low water mark.
    Beware the elevated sand flats. If the tide at a spot, like Bald Hill Beach, arrives 3 hours after low, then you are obviously on the higher ground on an elevated sandflat. When the tide arrives here, it arrives at the fastest period of tide flow. Many fisherman are caught and taken by surprise in these locations.
    .
    Know the “RULE of TWELFTHS” .  How much water comes in and when. How much more will be coming in. The Flow rate of the tide in that hour. So you can decide; do you sit it out there and keep fishing or get out of there quickly.
    .
    THE RULE OF TWELFTHS FOR TIDE MOVEMENTS:
    - Based on the most frequent 6 hourly tide cycle experienced.
    .
    If we Start at LOW Tide.
    There is no movement. 100% of the water movement is yet to come in.
    .
    1 HOUR after Low Tide:
    - 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 7% of the tide has moved in, during this hour.
    - 93% of the water is yet to come
    .
    2 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 25% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 75% of the water is yet to come
    .
    3 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The first of the fastest 2 hours of movement.
    - 50% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 50% of the water is yet to come
    .
    4 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 3/12th of the tide moves in this hour. The second of the fastest 2 hrs of movement.
    - 75% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 25% of the water is yet to come
    .
    5 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - 2/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 93% of the tide has moved in, by the end of this hour.
    - 7% of the water is yet to come
    .
    6 HOURS after Low Tide:
    - the last 1/12th of the tide moves in this hour.
    - 100% of the tide has moved in, at the end of this hour.
    - No more water to come in. This is the top of the tide.
    .
    There have been a few occasions, when I have been counting the minutes and calculating the tide, whilst I was stranded out on a bank with water too deep to cross all around me.
    Hopefully your sandflats fishing can be much more successful armed with the knowledge of these variables and their effects on your fishing.
    .
    Cheers and Tight lines, Des
  16. Like
    Des reacted to Dan C in Flathead spikes   
    With some of the lizards you catch Des you're lucky you haven't lost an arm!
  17. Like
    Des reacted to MAH in Braid on my 2500 size reel   
    Have a look on Aliexpress for one sold by PLUSINNO Fishing. There are plenty of others but this one looks OK.
  18. Like
    Des reacted to MAH in Braid on my 2500 size reel   
    You can buy gadgets like this from Aliexpress for under $50.
    Fill reel/spool with braid, then add required backing line to get perfect depth of line on your reel Reverse the process winding the line back onto the plastic spool (the backing line will be on the bottom) Use a second plastic spool to wind the line onto (the backing line will now be on top) Place this second spool onto the gadegt Wind  onto the reel/spool Worth it when you have multiple reels.
  19. Like
    Des got a reaction from Wert in Braid on my 2500 size reel   
    I was just about to explain
  20. Like
    Des got a reaction from Wert in Braid on my 2500 size reel   
    I previously got the tackle shops to do this for me. But with the increasing cost of quality braid these days I have started to source my braid elsewhere. And yes, I am topping up the backing as I shed/use up the braid above.
    I have been struggling and guessing so far.  This will definitely help. It will be easy for the reels that have spare spools and the multiple reels of the same size/model.
    Thanks. Cheers, Des
  21. Like
    Des reacted to Wert in Braid on my 2500 size reel   
    Oh wait,  I just worked out what you meant almost immediately after submitting my long winded response above.
    Yes, what you say is correct and I actually do just this on the one reel I have with a spare spool, well actually it's 2 reels I have which are the same plus a spare spool which I was able to acquire without the outrageous cost of spare spools these days (remember when reels just came with spare spools?).
    For these reels full line changes are a pleasure, being able to play musical spools makes the process so much easier, top ups and reversals etc however still needs some variation on the 2 spool method.
    For example if your line is a bit low, say from a bust off but you've still got plenty of braid left overall and it's still fresh you'll fill the spool to the brim with your chosen backing on top of the braid, wind this off onto a handline, wind the braid  and existing backing onto the other handline then respool with the top up backing then put the original backing+braid back on.
    A couple of handlines, some mono backing and a bit of imagination can make a length of braid go a very long way.
  22. Like
    Des reacted to Wert in Braid on my 2500 size reel   
    Load up the braid first, tie on the backing and fill to the spool's capacity then reverse it, can't go wrong this way.
    It shouldn't take too long either and this way you get it perfect first go.
  23. Like
    Des reacted to Meppstas in Chasing trout in the Meander River.   
    This spin session was a tough one, conditions were pretty good, but the trout were hard to find, I still managed to get onto a few wild brown trout thanks to the Mepps March Brown Bug spinner. Thanks for watching, enjoy the musical photo slideshow at the end of the video and stay safe on/in the water..
    cheers Adrian (meppstas)
     
    A few pics from the spin session.. as always, all the trout were released..


  24. Like
    Des got a reaction from Wert in BARGAIN !!! Shimano Stella   
    That is actually a totally illegal practice.
    That is clearly illegally  "passing off" under the Trade Practices Act.
    Shimano would certainly not cheapen their Stella brand by licensing this production or sales.
    That store is treading on thin ice.
  25. Like
    Des got a reaction from Kelvin in BARGAIN !!! Shimano Stella   
    Good for a cheap disposable reel I guess.  Just like you need with a lot of wading fishing. Only a few dollarsat risk.
    However as I mostly repetitively lure cast these days that extra 50 - 100 grams is a killer for my R.S.I. 
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