Des & Penthrox are right.The stores will hate me saying it, but if you buy direct from the factory, they can be custom made at NO ADDITIONAL COSTBoth Dave & Penny are top people to deal with & are always keen to ensure they have happy customers.Like many others, its Hornes for me or nothingAlso worth noting that the same applies to wet weather gear, as things are made on site they can be custom made to FIT YOU