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Mr Geen, You keep harping about the Government stopping you from fishing with Super Trawlers in Australian waters when in fact its the people of this country that have stood up and said "No Way". I'm proud to have a Government turn around and say we made a mistake and the people have told us they don't want this ship in Australian waters and they've acted accordingly on our behalf. If your loosing millions this lays at your feet as you never obtained a license to do so, i fail to see how you can sue but if you do and are successful let the Government repay your costs that doesn't bother me. You and your partners Van Der Plas cannot be trusted, your attempts to hide video footage of your so called net mods that don't work in which you were assisted by AFMA (Who is no longer Trusted) in trying to suppress this footage is one reason, another is that where ever these ships go they decimate fishing stocks including European stocks and West African stocks and fisheries decimated to the point of collapse and were booted out by the West African Government. Your out trying to buy up other quotas to increase your own and your reluctance to speak of this was also a concern for Rec Fishers. Colin Buxton claiming you are only going to take 7.5% down from 10% is just as alarming when the data is ten years old and you and he have no idea what 7.5% equates to in numbers as you don't know what numbers are there in the 1st place, this is laughable. Why does AFMA allow you a doubling of the quota with no scientific data to suggest whether this is safe to do so or not. All of this is very suspicious to Rec Fishers. You say you wont sit in one area and decimate large schools when in fact that's exactly what they do everywhere they go because of the freezer capacity and their ability to stay out there longer and do so. Your all about making money, you and your partners don't give a stuff about that damage you may cause and to save a buck you will sit in one area until its raped and you know it and so do we i feel, i fear that you see smaller trawlers as not making you enough money fast enough, and are looking to cash in and make more money without any concern of what damage may be done to our stocks, i fear you and your partners will just rape and pillage as much as you can get and then once its totally stuffed sell up and move on to something else. What else is disgusting is the renaming of the ship to Abel Tasman in order to appease the flack you knew was coming, you should change the name back immediately if you have any respect for the name Abel Tasman, this bloke would be turning in his grave seeing how you have abused his name for your own financial benefit. You continue to attempt to fish even though in your own state Tasmania the people have overwhelmingly said no we don't want this, Private members bills are being passed in different states to add volume to that "We don't want you to do this" but you don't give a stuff about us so why should we give a stuff about you, you can go broke and go home for all we care mate. You cannot be trusted, you've been caught out on a few issues Ive mentioned above, you are a deceptive character and i feel you will say and do whatever in order to succeed. Your Captain Wilfred Van Duyn says he has never caught a seal or dolphin in his nets is just ridiculous, i feel this is just another bare faced lie in order to gain access to our waters and appease the worry the population has for these species, this man is a liar i have no doubts he has caught seals and dolphins, who was captain of the ship when the footage of your net mods was taken that you and AFMA attempted to suppress. You and your partners are deceptive characters whose only concern is money money money. You choose to use scientists that support your case and ignore those that say this is a destructive and unsustainable way to fish. The rich are a greedy lot and only care about getting richer seen it before and will no doubt see it again. Well Mr Geen over our dead bodies will the people of this country allow you and those that have ruined their own stocks in Europe and everywhere they go to do it here, give up as it isnt going to happen as long as there is a pulse in our veins. If the science isnt there to allow you to fish here which it isnt then you and your deceptive partners fund it, dont ask the Australian people to fund something we dont want and in closing can i just say suck it mate you got what you deserve and i hope you continue to get it to the point you are driven out of this country as your kind of money grabbing types make the rest of us sick to our stomachs. Bugger off the Australian people own whats in our waters and we intend to keep it from you and your unsustainable ways.Graham WilsonAcopy of what i sent to Mr Geen

Mr Geen, You keep harping about the Government stopping you from fishing with Super Trawlers in Australian waters when in fact its the people of this country that have stood up and said "No Way". I'm proud to have a Government turn around and say we made a mistake and the people have told us they don't want this ship in Australian waters and they've acted accordingly on our behalf. If your loosing millions this lays at your feet as you never obtained a license to do so, i fail to see how you can sue but if you do and are successful let the Government repay your costs that doesn't bother me. You and your partners Van Der Plas cannot be trusted, your attempts to hide video footage of your so called net mods that don't work in which you were assisted by AFMA (Who is no longer Trusted) in trying to suppress this footage is one reason, another is that where ever these ships go they decimate fishing stocks including European stocks and West African stocks and fisheries decimated to the point of collapse and were booted out by the West African Government. Your out trying to buy up other quotas to increase your own and your reluctance to speak of this was also a concern for Rec Fishers. Colin Buxton claiming you are only going to take 7.5% down from 10% is just as alarming when the data is ten years old and you and he have no idea what 7.5% equates to in numbers as you don't know what numbers are there in the 1st place, this is laughable. Why does AFMA allow you a doubling of the quota with no scientific data to suggest whether this is safe to do so or not. All of this is very suspicious to Rec Fishers. You say you wont sit in one area and decimate large schools when in fact that's exactly what they do everywhere they go because of the freezer capacity and their ability to stay out there longer and do so. Your all about making money, you and your partners don't give a stuff about that damage you may cause and to save a buck you will sit in one area until its raped and you know it and so do we i feel, i fear that you see smaller trawlers as not making you enough money fast enough, and are looking to cash in and make more money without any concern of what damage may be done to our stocks, i fear you and your partners will just rape and pillage as much as you can get and then once its totally stuffed sell up and move on to something else. What else is disgusting is the renaming of the ship to Abel Tasman in order to appease the flack you knew was coming, you should change the name back immediately if you have any respect for the name Abel Tasman, this bloke would be turning in his grave seeing how you have abused his name for your own financial benefit. You continue to attempt to fish even though in your own state Tasmania the people have overwhelmingly said no we don't want this, Private members bills are being passed in different states to add volume to that "We don't want you to do this" but you don't give a stuff about us so why should we give a stuff about you, you can go broke and go home for all we care mate. You cannot be trusted, you've been caught out on a few issues Ive mentioned above, you are a deceptive character and i feel you will say and do whatever in order to succeed. Your Captain Wilfred Van Duyn says he has never caught a seal or dolphin in his nets is just ridiculous, i feel this is just another bare faced lie in order to gain access to our waters and appease the worry the population has for these species, this man is a liar i have no doubts he has caught seals and dolphins, who was captain of the ship when the footage of your net mods was taken that you and AFMA attempted to suppress. You and your partners are deceptive characters whose only concern is money money money. You choose to use scientists that support your case and ignore those that say this is a destructive and unsustainable way to fish. The rich are a greedy lot and only care about getting richer seen it before and will no doubt see it again. Well Mr Geen over our dead bodies will the people of this country allow you and those that have ruined their own stocks in Europe and everywhere they go to do it here, give up as it isnt going to happen as long as there is a pulse in our veins. If the science isnt there to allow you to fish here which it isnt then you and your deceptive partners fund it, dont ask the Australian people to fund something we dont want and in closing can i just say suck it mate you got what you deserve and i hope you continue to get it to the point you are driven out of this country as your kind of money grabbing types make the rest of us sick to our stomachs. Bugger off the Australian people own whats in our waters and we intend to keep it from you and your unsustainable ways.Graham WilsonAcopy of what i sent to Mr Geen

Received a letter and the Hansard covering the debate from Leon Bignell yesterday, long story short the Private Members bill he wanted introduced to stop the trawler fishing in SA waters was passed. Interestingly the Liberals apposed it but the motion was still passed regardless.Bravo Mr Bignell and thank you.

Well done, nice fish mate. The scale set up in the net is pretty cool to by the way. Best of luck for the 20 pounder.

Yeh you need to pay attention when retrieving line that you lay on evenly but after a bit of time using them this just becomes second nature and is quiet easy to do without thinking about it to hard.

www.environment.sa.gov.au/About_Us/Provide_feedbackI thought the above would help.

Four Corners was very interesting and at the same time very alarming. I have very little faith in AFMA now to do what is in the best interest of sustainable fishing, i have even less faith that it is independent and cant be swayed.Gerry Geene has his seen his profit margin decline over the last few years as fish have gotten harder to find while holding approximately half of the allowable quota to be taken in Australian waters. This would be costing him a great deal i imagine. So what does he decide to do bring a Super Trawler to our waters and clean up while we can as things are only going to get more difficult. He bases his whole argument on ten year old science, the numbers of Jack Mackerel out there is unknown today as we speak.He admits himself we are finding it harder to find our quotas of this species as the fish aren't here anymore the numbers they used to be. Why is that Gerry why haven't you tried to understand why this is the case, fund the science. I'll tell you why its because the results would probably damning to your required needs.He tells us we modified the nets they work, when in fact they don't work as well as we've been lead to believe, when their own footage showed this wasn't the case they tried to cover it up, bury it and AFMA assisted in this. I have no faith in AFMA anymore they are as crooked in my opinion as the tossers that own the boat and Gerry Greene for that matter. The modifications will allow 40% to 100% of Seals Dolphins etc to escape, what the hell kind of figures are they 40% to 100%, if Rec fishers brought any figures like that to the debate we'd be laughed out the building. Geene also states we are only going to take 7%, 7% is fine but when you don't know what the real numbers are of Jack Mackerel today in our waters how do you measure 7%. He basis his argument on "this is a commercial enterprise" ie what hes saying is we want to make as much as we can as cheap as we can as quickly as we can and we have 10 year old science to support our argument that we should be allowed to do this. Get stuffed Gerry. The bycatch from these nets would be massive, 70% percent of the bycatch that gets tossed back in the water is dead or dying when trawled from great depths if anyone ever tries to tell you different they are lying. 70% is a conservative number as well its possibly more like 85% in reality.Colin Buxton Director of the Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies spews out the same figures "they were going to take 10% but revised that to 7.5%, we are only going to take 7.5% now'He doesn't know what numbers of Jack Mackerel are present in Australian waters as the studies are ten years old, he's aware the stocks are harder to find and agrees they are further south and also sitting off the continental shelf. So how does he know 7.5% is really 7.5% i find this absolutely laughable and probably the dumbest thing i have heard come from an educated man. A suspicious person would think he has another agenda to support. Every bit of our (Rec Fishers) argument is scrutinised and must have a basis of some fact this is demanded of us yet these clowns are allowed to debate based on ten year old science that is no longer relevant today. Everyone is in agreement with this even Geene feels global warming has had a significant impact on stocks looking for cooler waters he's seen his bottom line decreasing he knows better than most.Colin Buxton also thought we are silly to think the Trawler would sit in one spot and take everything that was there, he doesn't think that would happen. What a load of bull of course that is what would happen when all that matters is the bottom line and the Trawler has been guilty of this on numerous occasions already. Why was Geene reluctant to admit they were buying up or leasing quotas form other local pro fisherman in order to raise their allowable quota and when pressed on the issue spewed out "well it is a commercial enterprise" Already they been seen to be deceptive so whats stopping them from deception in the future, their conscience. Give me a break. Wouldn't mind seeing a Royal Commision into this whole thing includings AFMA's involvement and what else they've assisted in burying in order to get the Trawler fishing here.One thing Ive learnt is those people that have money are the hardest to get it from and they are never satisfied and always want to be wealthier with little or no regard for people fauna or environment. I don't understand Geene's stupidity in an industry that has to be sustainablefor him and his business to survive into the future unless he only see's himself in it for not to much longer and the Super Trawler his retirement package. Big assumption i know but you tell me what his thought process is then. Why would he risk the same thing happening here that has happened everywhere else the Trawlers been. Wouldn't it be in his best interest to fund the science or assist with funding to acquire more up to date science to ensure sustainability. Why was Dirk Van Der Plas under the impression the Trawler would be here indefinitely when everywhere its been its had to move on to find more viable waters in order to turn a profit. These views and suspicions are entirely my own and in no way a reflection of Strike & Hook'sopinion to the best of my knowledge. Four Corners has raised many more questions for me and shown Geene to be a deceptive character. No Super Trawler never ever and Graham Pyke you are a God to me and to all Rec Fishers in Tasmania i bow in your general direction you are worth your wait in gold.There are 5 million Rec Fishers in this country when the hell are we going to start wielding the power we have. An email or a letter cost practicaly nothing to send our/your State and Federal Goverment and reminding them they are elected by the people for the people and we dont want Super Trawlers fishing in Australian waters ever or you'll find yourself in opposition. This always makes me feel better for about ten minutes. A much bigger rant than i was intending but this whole thing stinks to the core.

Thanks afishyfish,Wahoo. It was a massive rant that was brought on by Buxtons comment of 7% of an unknown number, that just sent me over the deep end tbh. Pitty about the spelling lol.Yeh unfortunately that mentality afishyfish is rife through out big business. The winery incident you speak of is just another example, sadly it spans all industries. The wealthy love their money and will do anything and i mean anything to protect it.The doubling of the quota from 5000 tonnes to 10,000, this was another comment that blew my mind. Off the their own bat AFMA was prepared to double the allowable quota of Jack Mackeral for the Super Trawler. Now call me suspicious but i feel this was only done so the Trawler could break even, 5 tonnes wasnt a viable amount to send a ship that size out there for. This was revised to 7.5 tonnes which i magine is the break even number. My question is if AFMA see that as not being anykind of issue to sustainability then why didnt they do it earlier for the Fishing industry and Pro's in Tasmania in order to help them out, why in the space of a few weeks decide it was ok for the Super Trawler. I'll tell you why, AFMA would now be under pressure from the owners aswell as the Government,ie lets do what we can to just shut the whole story down and get it off the front pages and maybe the Rec Fishers will forget about it and move on, they never expected the backlash in Tasmania and around the country.I have huge concerns regarding AFMA and Finlays (think that was his name) involvement and feel an inquiry is waranted and a sacking or two. AFMA should be entirely independent for obvious reasons, they are meant to be but in this case i dont believe they have been. Something rotten stinks in AFMA at the minute.I long for the day that Rec Fish Australia is as powerful as the National Rifle Assc is in the USA. AFMA need to be reminded that just like the minerals in the ground that belong to all Australians so do the fish in our waters. Independent bodies are great but all to often they are open to corruption and can be infected by it terminally. AFMA should be made to consult with all peoples involved at the pointy end of the industry before any quota is raised or lowered, before anything like a Super Trawler is allowed to fish in our waters etcso everybody is on the same page and understand whatever the situation the same as the bloke sitting next to him. The rules should apply across the board to all concerned ie if Rec Fish Australia have to use up to date Data then all parties should have to opperate the same way.Rec Fish Australia should always be involved in any major decision regarding Australian waters because of the shear amount of cash we pump into the economy. I wonder also Wahoo what it will do for the other 11 months, my suspicious self thinks there is nothing stopping Geen and his cronies from leasing the boat to other large fishing industries in this country to go chase other species in and around Australian waters if they get the go ahead to fish. There would be other rich men just waiting to pick the phone up to get a little richer.

Thanks CBKon i think we will see more of these comments from Geen and co, its the standard lines that always seem to follow a decision that goes against a business. Id like to know what the 25 employee's of Seafish Tas were going to be doing anyway considering the Trawler has its own processing plant, were they going to be used to run that or would it be business as usual at Seafish Tasmania's plant in order to process the catch from existing trawlers employed by Sea Fish Tas. If there is a threat to these 25 jobs its been brought about by poor businesspractice/management. Although i have little information to support that the Super Trawler scenario smacks of poor managerial decisions, for example if i was going to invest said millions into bringing this trawler here i would be wanting more than a verbal confirmation or a handshake, i would want uummm let me think hey that's it "Some documentation like a fishing licence and all the relevant paperwork" that says i can do so. Then id have a leg to stand on in Court should that permision be revoked.One theory i have and its only a theory is should Geen of got/get permission to use the Super Trawler to fish here, what would stop him using 100% of his 18,000 tonne quota for the Super Trawler thus eliminating all the smaller trawlers from the process that work for him. If the Super Trawler makes such good economic sense and would enable the company to turn a larger profit this would have to be considered wouldn't it. As Geen said when pressed on the issue of trying to buy or lease existing quota's it is a "Commercial enterprise" and the rich do like there cash. How many jobs would be lost then across the country if my theory is correct including the 25 at his plant in Tasmania. All that would be left would be the truck drivers pulling onto the wharf to load the already processed fish. Just a theory.Buxton can rant all he likes this blokes lost all credibility with me. Ive only got one thing to say to him "Democracy is a beautiful thing Mr Buxton". What Geen and Buxton keep forgetting is the Government works for all of us and is elected by all of us, so when the majority show concerns and genuine fear over what could happen to our oceans aren't they within their right to act on the behalf of all of us that have these concerns and fears. It's not third world politics idiots its Democracy.

The Victorian Government is organising itself to ban Super Trawlers fishing in Victorian Watersi urge everyone here to petition the South Australian Government to do the same via emails, letters and or phone calls to their local members and state members. Don't sit back and let Tasmania and Victoria carry the can lets get behind them and support them as strongly as we can.No Super Trawlers fishing in South Australian waters ever.

The Victorian Government has moved today to introduce Legislation to ban Super Trawlers fromfishing in Victorian waters. Bravo Victoria.In South Australia state Labor backbencher Leon Bignell is intending to do the same by introducing a private members bill this week to stop the Super Trawler fishing of the coast of South Australia. I beg everyone here to send an email a letter or make a phone call to their local or state member and offer support to Leon Bignell and the passing of this bill. We have a massive opportunity here to Support Victoria, WA and Tasmania and encourage NSW to do the same.This way we can hopefully force Mr Geen and his Super Trawler partners to see they are not and never will be allowed to fish off the South Australian coast. We are already under alot of pressure with Marine Parks in this state dont waste the oppotunity to protect our waters from this disaster. As a local recreational fisherman i beg of you please make your voice heard and counted. I cant stress enough the importance of this opportunity we may not get another one.

Four Corners was very interesting and at the same time very alarming. I have very little faith in AFMA now to do what is in the best interest of sustainable fishing, i have even less faith that it is independent and cant be swayed.Gerry Geene has his seen his profit margin decline over the last few years as fish have gotten harder to find while holding approximately half of the allowable quota to be taken in Australian waters. This would be costing him a great deal i imagine. So what does he decide to do bring a Super Trawler to our waters and clean up while we can as things are only going to get more difficult. He bases his whole argument on ten year old science, the numbers of Jack Mackerel out there is unknown today as we speak.He admits himself we are finding it harder to find our quotas of this species as the fish aren't here anymore the numbers they used to be. Why is that Gerry why haven't you tried to understand why this is the case, fund the science. I'll tell you why its because the results would probably damning to your required needs.He tells us we modified the nets they work, when in fact they don't work as well as we've been lead to believe, when their own footage showed this wasn't the case they tried to cover it up, bury it and AFMA assisted in this. I have no faith in AFMA anymore they are as crooked in my opinion as the tossers that own the boat and Gerry Greene for that matter. The modifications will allow 40% to 100% of Seals Dolphins etc to escape, what the hell kind of figures are they 40% to 100%, if Rec fishers brought any figures like that to the debate we'd be laughed out the building. Geene also states we are only going to take 7%, 7% is fine but when you don't know what the real numbers are of Jack Mackerel today in our waters how do you measure 7%. He basis his argument on "this is a commercial enterprise" ie what hes saying is we want to make as much as we can as cheap as we can as quickly as we can and we have 10 year old science to support our argument that we should be allowed to do this. Get stuffed Gerry. The bycatch from these nets would be massive, 70% percent of the bycatch that gets tossed back in the water is dead or dying when trawled from great depths if anyone ever tries to tell you different they are lying. 70% is a conservative number as well its possibly more like 85% in reality.Colin Buxton Director of the Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies spews out the same figures "they were going to take 10% but revised that to 7.5%, we are only going to take 7.5% now'He doesn't know what numbers of Jack Mackerel are present in Australian waters as the studies are ten years old, he's aware the stocks are harder to find and agrees they are further south and also sitting off the continental shelf. So how does he know 7.5% is really 7.5% i find this absolutely laughable and probably the dumbest thing i have heard come from an educated man. A suspicious person would think he has another agenda to support. Every bit of our (Rec Fishers) argument is scrutinised and must have a basis of some fact this is demanded of us yet these clowns are allowed to debate based on ten year old science that is no longer relevant today. Everyone is in agreement with this even Geene feels global warming has had a significant impact on stocks looking for cooler waters he's seen his bottom line decreasing he knows better than most.Colin Buxton also thought we are silly to think the Trawler would sit in one spot and take everything that was there, he doesn't think that would happen. What a load of bull of course that is what would happen when all that matters is the bottom line and the Trawler has been guilty of this on numerous occasions already. Why was Geene reluctant to admit they were buying up or leasing quotas form other local pro fisherman in order to raise their allowable quota and when pressed on the issue spewed out "well it is a commercial enterprise" Already they been seen to be deceptive so whats stopping them from deception in the future, their conscience. Give me a break. Wouldn't mind seeing a Royal Commision into this whole thing includings AFMA's involvement and what else they've assisted in burying in order to get the Trawler fishing here.One thing Ive learnt is those people that have money are the hardest to get it from and they are never satisfied and always want to be wealthier with little or no regard for people fauna or environment. I don't understand Geene's stupidity in an industry that has to be sustainablefor him and his business to survive into the future unless he only see's himself in it for not to much longer and the Super Trawler his retirement package. Big assumption i know but you tell me what his thought process is then. Why would he risk the same thing happening here that has happened everywhere else the Trawlers been. Wouldn't it be in his best interest to fund the science or assist with funding to acquire more up to date science to ensure sustainability. Why was Dirk Van Der Plas under the impression the Trawler would be here indefinitely when everywhere its been its had to move on to find more viable waters in order to turn a profit. These views and suspicions are entirely my own and in no way a reflection of Strike & Hook'sopinion to the best of my knowledge. Four Corners has raised many more questions for me and shown Geene to be a deceptive character. No Super Trawler never ever and Graham Pyke you are a God to me and to all Rec Fishers in Tasmania i bow in your general direction you are worth your wait in gold.There are 5 million Rec Fishers in this country when the hell are we going to start wielding the power we have. An email or a letter cost practicaly nothing to send our/your State and Federal Goverment and reminding them they are elected by the people for the people and we dont want Super Trawlers fishing in Australian waters ever or you'll find yourself in opposition. This always makes me feel better for about ten minutes. A much bigger rant than i was intending but this whole thing stinks to the core.

Four Corners was very interesting and at the same time very alarming. I have very little faith in AFMA now to do what is in the best interest of sustainable fishing, i have even less faith that it is independent and cant be swayed.Gerry Geene has his seen his profit margin decline over the last few years as fish have gotten harder to find while holding approximately half of the allowable quota to be taken in Australian waters. This would be costing him a great deal i imagine. So what does he decide to do bring a Super Trawler to our waters and clean up while we can as things are only going to get more difficult. He bases his whole argument on ten year old science, the numbers of Jack Mackerel out there is unknown today as we speak.He admits himself we are finding it harder to find our quotas of this species as the fish aren't here anymore the numbers they used to be. Why is that Gerry why haven't you tried to understand why this is the case, fund the science. I'll tell you why its because the results would probably damning to your required needs.He tells us we modified the nets they work, when in fact they don't work as well as we've been lead to believe, when their own footage showed this wasn't the case they tried to cover it up, bury it and AFMA assisted in this. I have no faith in AFMA anymore they are as crooked in my opinion as the tossers that own the boat and Gerry Greene for that matter. The modifications will allow 40% to 100% of Seals Dolphins etc to escape, what the hell kind of figures are they 40% to 100%, if Rec fishers brought any figures like that to the debate we'd be laughed out the building. Geene also states we are only going to take 7%, 7% is fine but when you don't know what the real numbers are of Jack Mackerel today in our waters how do you measure 7%. He basis his argument on "this is a commercial enterprise" ie what hes saying is we want to make as much as we can as cheap as we can as quickly as we can and we have 10 year old science to support our argument that we should be allowed to do this. Get stuffed Gerry. The bycatch from these nets would be massive, 70% percent of the bycatch that gets tossed back in the water is dead or dying when trawled from great depths if anyone ever tries to tell you different they are lying. 70% is a conservative number as well its possibly more like 85% in reality.Colin Buxton Director of the Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies spews out the same figures "they were going to take 10% but revised that to 7.5%, we are only going to take 7.5% now'He doesn't know what numbers of Jack Mackerel are present in Australian waters as the studies are ten years old, he's aware the stocks are harder to find and agrees they are further south and also sitting off the continental shelf. So how does he know 7.5% is really 7.5% i find this absolutely laughable and probably the dumbest thing i have heard come from an educated man. A suspicious person would think he has another agenda to support. Every bit of our (Rec Fishers) argument is scrutinised and must have a basis of some fact this is demanded of us yet these clowns are allowed to debate based on ten year old science that is no longer relevant today. Everyone is in agreement with this even Geene feels global warming has had a significant impact on stocks looking for cooler waters he's seen his bottom line decreasing he knows better than most.Colin Buxton also thought we are silly to think the Trawler would sit in one spot and take everything that was there, he doesn't think that would happen. What a load of bull of course that is what would happen when all that matters is the bottom line and the Trawler has been guilty of this on numerous occasions already. Why was Geene reluctant to admit they were buying up or leasing quotas form other local pro fisherman in order to raise their allowable quota and when pressed on the issue spewed out "well it is a commercial enterprise" Already they been seen to be deceptive so whats stopping them from deception in the future, their conscience. Give me a break. Wouldn't mind seeing a Royal Commision into this whole thing includings AFMA's involvement and what else they've assisted in burying in order to get the Trawler fishing here.One thing Ive learnt is those people that have money are the hardest to get it from and they are never satisfied and always want to be wealthier with little or no regard for people fauna or environment. I don't understand Geene's stupidity in an industry that has to be sustainablefor him and his business to survive into the future unless he only see's himself in it for not to much longer and the Super Trawler his retirement package. Big assumption i know but you tell me what his thought process is then. Why would he risk the same thing happening here that has happened everywhere else the Trawlers been. Wouldn't it be in his best interest to fund the science or assist with funding to acquire more up to date science to ensure sustainability. Why was Dirk Van Der Plas under the impression the Trawler would be here indefinitely when everywhere its been its had to move on to find more viable waters in order to turn a profit. These views and suspicions are entirely my own and in no way a reflection of Strike & Hook'sopinion to the best of my knowledge. Four Corners has raised many more questions for me and shown Geene to be a deceptive character. No Super Trawler never ever and Graham Pyke you are a God to me and to all Rec Fishers in Tasmania i bow in your general direction you are worth your wait in gold.There are 5 million Rec Fishers in this country when the hell are we going to start wielding the power we have. An email or a letter cost practicaly nothing to send our/your State and Federal Goverment and reminding them they are elected by the people for the people and we dont want Super Trawlers fishing in Australian waters ever or you'll find yourself in opposition. This always makes me feel better for about ten minutes. A much bigger rant than i was intending but this whole thing stinks to the core.

Four Corners was very interesting and at the same time very alarming. I have very little faith in AFMA now to do what is in the best interest of sustainable fishing, i have even less faith that it is independent and cant be swayed.Gerry Geene has his seen his profit margin decline over the last few years as fish have gotten harder to find while holding approximately half of the allowable quota to be taken in Australian waters. This would be costing him a great deal i imagine. So what does he decide to do bring a Super Trawler to our waters and clean up while we can as things are only going to get more difficult. He bases his whole argument on ten year old science, the numbers of Jack Mackerel out there is unknown today as we speak.He admits himself we are finding it harder to find our quotas of this species as the fish aren't here anymore the numbers they used to be. Why is that Gerry why haven't you tried to understand why this is the case, fund the science. I'll tell you why its because the results would probably damning to your required needs.He tells us we modified the nets they work, when in fact they don't work as well as we've been lead to believe, when their own footage showed this wasn't the case they tried to cover it up, bury it and AFMA assisted in this. I have no faith in AFMA anymore they are as crooked in my opinion as the tossers that own the boat and Gerry Greene for that matter. The modifications will allow 40% to 100% of Seals Dolphins etc to escape, what the hell kind of figures are they 40% to 100%, if Rec fishers brought any figures like that to the debate we'd be laughed out the building. Geene also states we are only going to take 7%, 7% is fine but when you don't know what the real numbers are of Jack Mackerel today in our waters how do you measure 7%. He basis his argument on "this is a commercial enterprise" ie what hes saying is we want to make as much as we can as cheap as we can as quickly as we can and we have 10 year old science to support our argument that we should be allowed to do this. Get stuffed Gerry. The bycatch from these nets would be massive, 70% percent of the bycatch that gets tossed back in the water is dead or dying when trawled from great depths if anyone ever tries to tell you different they are lying. 70% is a conservative number as well its possibly more like 85% in reality.Colin Buxton Director of the Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies spews out the same figures "they were going to take 10% but revised that to 7.5%, we are only going to take 7.5% now'He doesn't know what numbers of Jack Mackerel are present in Australian waters as the studies are ten years old, he's aware the stocks are harder to find and agrees they are further south and also sitting off the continental shelf. So how does he know 7.5% is really 7.5% i find this absolutely laughable and probably the dumbest thing i have heard come from an educated man. A suspicious person would think he has another agenda to support. Every bit of our (Rec Fishers) argument is scrutinised and must have a basis of some fact this is demanded of us yet these clowns are allowed to debate based on ten year old science that is no longer relevant today. Everyone is in agreement with this even Geene feels global warming has had a significant impact on stocks looking for cooler waters he's seen his bottom line decreasing he knows better than most.Colin Buxton also thought we are silly to think the Trawler would sit in one spot and take everything that was there, he doesn't think that would happen. What a load of bull of course that is what would happen when all that matters is the bottom line and the Trawler has been guilty of this on numerous occasions already. Why was Geene reluctant to admit they were buying up or leasing quotas form other local pro fisherman in order to raise their allowable quota and when pressed on the issue spewed out "well it is a commercial enterprise" Already they been seen to be deceptive so whats stopping them from deception in the future, their conscience. Give me a break. Wouldn't mind seeing a Royal Commision into this whole thing includings AFMA's involvement and what else they've assisted in burying in order to get the Trawler fishing here.One thing Ive learnt is those people that have money are the hardest to get it from and they are never satisfied and always want to be wealthier with little or no regard for people fauna or environment. I don't understand Geene's stupidity in an industry that has to be sustainablefor him and his business to survive into the future unless he only see's himself in it for not to much longer and the Super Trawler his retirement package. Big assumption i know but you tell me what his thought process is then. Why would he risk the same thing happening here that has happened everywhere else the Trawlers been. Wouldn't it be in his best interest to fund the science or assist with funding to acquire more up to date science to ensure sustainability. Why was Dirk Van Der Plas under the impression the Trawler would be here indefinitely when everywhere its been its had to move on to find more viable waters in order to turn a profit. These views and suspicions are entirely my own and in no way a reflection of Strike & Hook'sopinion to the best of my knowledge. Four Corners has raised many more questions for me and shown Geene to be a deceptive character. No Super Trawler never ever and Graham Pyke you are a God to me and to all Rec Fishers in Tasmania i bow in your general direction you are worth your wait in gold.There are 5 million Rec Fishers in this country when the hell are we going to start wielding the power we have. An email or a letter cost practicaly nothing to send our/your State and Federal Goverment and reminding them they are elected by the people for the people and we dont want Super Trawlers fishing in Australian waters ever or you'll find yourself in opposition. This always makes me feel better for about ten minutes. A much bigger rant than i was intending but this whole thing stinks to the core.

Kill them all as humanely as possible. Anyone who thinks different, well i cant print it tbh.

One of my favourite sunrise shots.

One of my favourite sunrise shots.

One of my favourite sunrise shots.