Bigmac54 0 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Unsure as to where to post this. Just wondering if anyone knows the law about making artificial reefs. I've heard different stories on the subject, so if u could be enlightened it would be great. Cheers, Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsley 19 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Totally illegal mate.From memory its something like $5000 fine per day until its cleaned up, you pay to clean it up etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsley 19 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 http://www.strikehook.com/forum/74-pirsa-fisheries/112056-crackdown-on-illegal-dumping-at-sea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boyington214 0 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Heya BM54!First thing. Nope, haven't used the SixStar yet! I read somewhere (I will have a look and see if I can find it) on a government website that to make an Artificial reef, you need to apply in writing to the relevant department (I think DENR have a hand in there somwhere) and pay a $12,500.00 fee which I think (don't quote me though) is non-refundable. Being an application fee only, I also think there are other fees in there somewhere. And the law surrounding Artifical reef's is that they MUST be listed on the public register including GPS co-ordinates. It simply isn't worth the cost to the recreational angler. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Be funny to drain both gulfs and count the number of illegal artificial reefs. They'd be thousands! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Poppa Snake 1,399 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I remember as a kid in the 70's the shack road at Port Augusta on friday afternoons & evenings every second car had a trailer behind it full of fridges,car bodies, tyres etc. Wish I had taken more notice of where they went. 4THALOVE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boyington214 0 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Too right Nanman. I think a lot of people would be shocked!I can remember similar things Poppa. The shack down from my Grandfathers had a pile of Stoves, Washing machines and Fridges and I remember more than one car body being towed out to be sunk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy23 625 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 As a kid back up in Whyalla, I remember specially built pontoons used to be towed out with car bodies on them, they would be moored at the foreshore in the evenings with a car body and empty in the morning. :dry: 4THALOVE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urhookedfish 12 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 As a kid back up in Whyalla' date=' I remember specially built pontoons used to be towed out with car bodies on them, they would be moored at the foreshore in the evenings with a car body and empty in the morning. :dry:[/quote']I always thought that people rented areas of the ocean and errected giant underwater sheds to store those car bodies. I never knew that someone could intentionally spoil a snappers environment by placing an old Holden on their doorstep..LOL :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:And surely those cars storred underwater would be useless a few years later due to severe rust! hahahahaha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boyington214 0 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I think they were mostly Fords UHF!! urhookedfish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 New artifical reefs would be going in all the time. Its almost impossible to police.I think its a good thing to spread the fish out over heaps of artificial reefs. Having fish congregate over just a handful of reefs would mean they'd get hammered too hard.I guess most reefs eventually just rust away to nothing as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ugly4Life 41 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I've always thought the total ban on artificial reefs was not well thought out.Surely if the Government regulated the use of materials that could be used to construct a reef (perhaps tyres or pre-made modules or something) and specified certain large zones where it was fine to create reefs it could only be a good thing?Saves the govvy money since we'll be doing all the hard work and keeps rec/pro anglers happy? Win-win? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Still goes on regularly I'm sure. I remeber seeing somewhere that John Winslety came across a floating fridge out in the gulf one day, complete with a chain on it that had appartently come unstuck :whistle: At least if it's an approved reef, it's "guaranteed" to be free of contaminants and out the way of shipping etc, which is how it should be As a kid back up in Whyalla' date=' I remember specially built pontoons used to be towed out with car bodies on them, they would be moored at the foreshore in the evenings with a car body and empty in the morning. :dry:[/quote']Just a bit suss :whistle: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crispy 2 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Hi all in the phillipines they are actually building artificial reefs out of concrete domes ,the domes have holes in them and are semi locked together, the domes are specially made and taken out and divers assist in placing them in position from the local diving school it is a win win situation the fish get a new reef ,the divers get a new dive spot ,shark fishing there has descimated the population so badly they are actually catching small sharks and releasing them in the enviroment to try to bring them back ,most of this is centred around general santos city on the island of mindanoa the largest in the phillipine group ,i dont see why the government doesnt do something similar instead of dumping there old warships which will eventally rust once the coral and see flora attach itself to these domes the result is almost like a natural reef crispy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afishyfish 4 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Try googling " Reef Balls " Crispy.Here's a good example http://www.reefballaustralia.com.au/images/ptnewmontposter.jpgThere's a lot happening out there with them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy23 625 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Hi all in the phillipines they are actually building artificial reefs out of concrete domes ' date='the domes have holes in them and are semi locked together, the domes are specially made and taken out and divers assist in placing them in position from the local diving school it is a win win situation the fish get a new reef ,the divers get a new dive spot ,shark fishing there has descimated the population so badly they are actually catching small sharks and releasing them in the enviroment to try to bring them back ,most of this is centred around general santos city on the island of mindanoa the largest in the phillipine group ,i dont see why the government doesnt do something similar instead of dumping there old warships which will eventally rust once the coral and see flora attach itself to these domes the result is almost like a natural reef crispy [/quote']A similar thing has been happening up of the Gold Coast, a couple of months ago whole new artificial reef was put down with specially design blocks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
savage480 1 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 ,i dont see why the government doesnt do something similarEasy - $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy23 625 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 ' date='i dont see why the government doesnt do something similar[/quote']Easy - $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$The government did it in Qld. with no fishing license either force 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crispy 2 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 yea but didnt we just give 6 billion to the overseas debt crisis ,i wonder if they would help us if we got in the s$%#% ? sorry but i beleive in looking after our own first rather than other counties who live it upcrispy statesquider, force, Poppa Snake and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tacklebags 404 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 ' date='i dont see why the government doesnt do something similar[/quote']Easy - $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$The government did it in Qld. with no fishing license either That is true Moggy.Similar to WA though, QLD get's mining royalties that SA can only dream about until our state gets the money to build the ports and other infrastructure.TB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silaflex 103 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Don't artificial reefs actually reduce the overall fish stocks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Des 818 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 My understanding is that these artificial reefs are only "fish aggregation devices"They do not actually help any particular species survive or thrive.It simply makes it easier for recco & pro fisherman to find them, subsequently diminish fish stocks. Cheers, Des Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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