pikk0n 2 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hi guys,I've got a shimano rarenium 4000 and I am planning to use it for lure casting on the beach. What pound braid would you recommend and how much of a spool would go on the 4000 for that recommended line strength? Looking at a few braids out there at the moment but it's quite hard to come to a decision on which to buy having done very little fishing off the beach.Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 depends on what your chasing mate? id say 15lb would be your base start... i use fireline and havent had any problems.... if i were you though i would take it to your local tackle shop and get them to spool it with there "bulk" spools its alot cheaper then theres no wastage aswell pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Softy 2,991 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I have 15lb FINS on my 9ft beach/lure rod and have not had any issues at all. pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 FINS Is a word that never ever should be mentioned again!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pikk0n 2 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Trying to go after salmon. Budget-wise, I can go pretty high thanks to my birthday and christmas gift. thanks for the replies, southie and Softy. Didn't know about the bulk spool. What's the quality like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Softy 2,991 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 NEVER had any issues with it, Tho i only run it on this rod....POWER PRO should never be mentioned again! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Trying to go after salmon. Budget-wise' date=' I can go pretty high thanks to my birthday and christmas gift. thanks for the replies, southie and Softy. Didn't know about the bulk spool. What's the quality like?[/quote']when i mean bulk spool i mean ur tackle shop will have a big roll of line, im talking like 1200m of it... it depends on what they stock but its usually power pro, fireline etc etc... they charge per metre generally you can spool a reel up with it for around 30-50 buxs pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yakmando 49 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I would go 15lb platypus. Platypus is amazing stuff!!! pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT 2 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 20lb Saltiga Surf?Expensive but the shiznit. http://daiwafishing.com.au/?p=4889TT pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mosler 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I have Power Pro Braid on 2 of my reels. They work fine. I have had Fins braid on another one of my reels and that has been good as well. For you application I would go for around 10-15lb braid. pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ugly4Life 41 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Power Pro or Stren Microfuse. The 2lb Microfuse (white) I have on my Jewel has been going strong for nearly 3 years now. Great stuff, can't recommend it highly enough. The Power Pro I really like, but I've found the Moss Green colour to be impossible to see and so I don't really like it for lure casting any more. pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pauly s 426 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 ive been using fins and power pro and not realy happy with the both of them, there alright once the lines wet but they dry out heaps when you got them sitting at home. i think ill give fireline a go next time. pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pikk0n 2 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I've got power pro sitting around so I'm thinking of probably upgrading and going a higher end braid. I'm guessing the only upgrades would be Sunline PE and the Daiwa ranges... Thanks for the inputs, guys. I'll probably get a 20lb daiwa braid and would 40lb fluoro leader be too heavy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 i only use 20lb leader throwing metal slugs around the beaches... on the more rougher bigger surf beaches you may want to upgrade the leader size pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pikk0n 2 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 i only use 20lb leader throwing metal slugs around the beaches... on the more rougher bigger surf beaches you may want to upgrade the leader sizePlanning a trip to Port Lincoln and from what I heard, it can be quite rough. Thanks for the tip, Banga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talbo 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 For 15-20lb I'd def go Sunline Super PE. Easily the best value braid on the market. A 20lb leader will be plenty for throwing lures around. pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
newtontoney 57 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 have to agree with talbo...super pe for me too when surf fishing through to a mono leader. pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smokeykebab 175 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 http://www.amazon.com/Sufix-Performance-Braid-Size--Spool/dp/B001NXC236/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1355056563&sr=8-8&keywords=sufix+neon+fireSufix Performance Braid 20 lbthats what I use fluro orange colour at night always helps. pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rosco1955 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 i use sunline super pe and it amazing pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderPIG 8 Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I've got 10lb fireline crystal for the sambos. Its abit over kill for the ones ive caught so far which are 25-35cm. But for bigger ones you can still put alot of hurt on them with 10lb. Fireline is cheap and casts well. Only thing is that it knotted up a couple of times but quite easy to undo because the line is stiffish. pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Live Fibre 1 Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I reckon I read somewhere (not sure where) that Shimano and PowerPro are "in bed" together ........sounds like the same relationship as at my place :ohmy: if that's the case pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Just Me 0 Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 It's no secret, it's on the back of the packet. "Innovative Textiles Inc, a Shimano company". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickD 0 Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Like a few people were saying, Sunline super PE is definitely the best value for money, super thin, smooth and casts amazing. I have it and am yet to get a wind knot, while fins knots up all the time. pikk0n 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 2,200 Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I reckon I read somewhere (not sure where) that Shimano and PowerPro are "in bed" together ........sounds like the same relationship as at my place :ohmy: if that's the case http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/using_powerpro0.htmlKonrad Krauland founded Innovative Textiles in 1992 in Grand Junction, Colorado, with the intent of manufacturing high strength braided lines for sport kiting. However, the need for a braided fishing line that was compatible with light tackle angling pushed Innovative Textile's development and manufacturing team to research, test, and develop a new braided super line - a small diameter line offering greater strength and less stretch than traditional monofilament lines.In 1997, Innovative Textiles introduced PowerPro microfilament braided line made with Spectra fiber, an incredibly round, smooth, and sensitive line (a vast improvement over the older braided lines). While initial sales were slow, hard work and perseverance paid off as Innovative Textiles has enjoyed a steady increase in sales revenue since the introduction of the PowerPro brand.In 2008, Shimano American Corporation completed its agreement to acquire Innovative Textiles, Inc. While maintaining manufacturing operations and staff at its facility in Grand Junction, CO Dave Pfeiffer, Shimano American President, notes that the Innovative Textiles sales and marketing efforts will be transitioned to Shimano American's operations in Irvine, CA. "The extensive background that Konrad Krauland and his team at Innovative Textiles have in braiding and textile engineering is one of the key assets of our acquisition," said Pfeiffer. "Krauland will join our management team as a vice president, focusing on production, coordinating manufacturing and new product development with Shimano offices worldwide."Pfeiffer further notes that, "While Konrad and Innovative Textiles have become a leader in braided fishing lines here in the U.S., the connection now with Shimano will allow us to grow the business throughout Asia, Australia, Canada, Europe and Latin America.""To be able to make that next big leap, from a strong brand in the U.S. fishing market to one that will have solid global presence, we couldn't be happier now being part of Shimano American Corporation," says Krauland. "As we integrate our Grand Junction operations into Shimano's operation in Irvine and sales offices around the globe, we look forward to working on the next innovations in fishing line technology and other new products over the next years." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pikk0n 2 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I've 3 reels spooled with Sunline Super PE and they are definitely smooth as described. It seems that the only upgrade from Sunline is Daiwa.... HAHA! Thanks again for the input, guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Just Me 0 Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Anyone here tried this stuff?http://www.rayannes.com.au/daiwa-shimano-reels-australia/line-braid/braid/berkley-egi-master-pe-braid-crazy-price-16-95/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southie THE BANGA 2,304 Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Anyone here tried this stuff?http://www.rayannes.com.au/daiwa-shimano-reels-australia/line-braid/braid/berkley-egi-master-pe-braid-crazy-price-16-95/got some the other day.... havent tried it yet but feels alright... Just Me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sa_on_patrol 0 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I'm going to try the Sunline Super PE 8lb on my new Symetre FL 2500. I'll let you know how it goes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piranha 76 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 The next step up from sunline super pe is sunline Castaway or Momentum 4x4, expensive but worth the extra $ be aware that these are true 8 strand Braids, 10lb breaks at 10lb and is similar in diametre to most 3-4lb test braid brands that have been mentioned in this thread.cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JT 0 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I know its unsporting but I run 30lb braid on my 4000 reel off the shore. It helps me yank my sinker out of the snags on more than one occasion! I've had good experience with Sunline and PowerPro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sa_on_patrol 0 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 What's the Rovex Viros braid like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talbo 0 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 The next step up from sunline super pe is sunline Castaway or Momentum 4x4' date=' expensive but worth the extra $ be aware that these are true 8 strand Braids, 10lb breaks at 10lb and is similar in diametre to most 3-4lb test braid brands that have been mentioned in this thread.cheers[/quote']Imho it depends on the application. I don't choose a braid based on breaking strain but rather on it's diameter. I want line managability and good casting distance so for e.g. I'll use Sunline Super PE 8lb or another PE 0.6 or 0.8 diameter line for bream fishing based on it's ability to cast light lures/ jigheads and avoid wind knots at the same time. Obviously I could fish 2 or 4lb braid for bream but it's not worth the headaches. So long as you're using a 4-6lb leader doesn't matter imo. Jack. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piranha 76 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 The next step up from sunline super pe is sunline Castaway or Momentum 4x4' date=' expensive but worth the extra $ be aware that these are true 8 strand Braids' date=' 10lb breaks at 10lb and is similar in diametre to most 3-4lb test braid brands that have been mentioned in this thread.cheers[/quote'']Imho it depends on the application. I don't choose a braid based on breaking strain but rather on it's diameter. I want line managability and good casting distance so for e.g. I'll use Sunline Super PE 8lb or another PE 0.6 or 0.8 diameter line for bream fishing based on it's ability to cast light lures/ jigheads and avoid wind knots at the same time. Obviously I could fish 2 or 4lb braid for bream but it's not worth the headaches. So long as you're using a 4-6lb leader doesn't matter imo.Spot on mate the 2 braids I mentioned are PE 0.6 I use them for anything from bream, perch and mulloway to freshwater fish like callop, reddies and trout As you mentioned all the advantages of light braid without all the associated problems of 2-4 and 6lb braids. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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