Innovative Ideas Man

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p.s. I have ordered some real ones - but the expendables will still have their place

[Rybak 641]

What about drilling a hole through the steel bar & threading through a zip tie. Saves wrapping line around it...Also old spark plugs would also work.

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29 minutes ago, Rybak said:

What about drilling a hole through the steel bar & threading through a zip tie. Saves wrapping line around it...Also old spark plugs would also work.

Yeah drilling was my first instinct aswell. 
 

but my cheap drill bits suck. I snapped one, dulled 2 and finally got through with the 4th. 
 

I even cut the steel on an angle so I wouldnt have to drill through the full 6mm of steel. 
 

once you get into a rhythm with tying them up, it’s pretty quick. And I don’t have the bits to make drilling an option. 

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Also been mucking round with different snells for drop shotting.

The style in the video gives a good 90 degree angle that seem to hold itself in place better than a palomar - and its reported to be stronger aswell.

Good for close in and vertical work
 

 

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and the way I usually tie them gives a more laid back presentation  - good for long distance casting or shallow presentations

Here they are side by side

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Last few developments on the "Expendables" range.

All with 4lb break away connections

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All new to the “expendables” range

Speed clamps. For quickly changing to a variety of different weights

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Now also available with eyes

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[Softy 2,991]

Looks like you have had a busy day! Could be onto something with that speed clam idea....

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2 hours ago, Softy said:

Looks like you have had a busy day! Could be onto something with that speed clam idea....

Yeah I reckon the clamp has potential

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ok so thats the last batch for the foreseeable future - just some big boys with swivels - 18.1 g is as big as they got

[Yorky 310]

On 31/5/2022 at 2:43 PM, yellow door 1 said:

Now also available with eyes

They once were a commercial item, don’t know if their still available 

[Des 838]

2 hours ago, Yorky said:

They once were a commercial item, don’t know if their still available 

Might try repurposing the spring of a wooden clothes peg 

 

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3 hours ago, Yorky said:

They once were a commercial item, don’t know if their still available 

yeah that boxy design would fit more ball sinkers than mine does - nice

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Just when you thought you were so bored of diy drop shotting and you couldnt bare it any more - theres more

Got to pick up some finer wire and make them more compact - but Im liking where this is heading

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 80lb brown stainless makes a more subdued package and should hold on the bigger hook

[dmck 639]

I use womens hair clips to push through the hole.  Have to trim to length first (cut of knobs from ends) then fit and tap sinker with hammer.  Cheap from supermarkets.

THey do rust so keep them dry - when not in use.

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1 hour ago, dmck said:

I use womens hair clips to push through the hole.  Have to trim to length first (cut of knobs from ends) then fit and tap sinker with hammer.  Cheap from supermarkets.

THey do rust so keep them dry - when not in use.

Yeah Nice one the Galvanised fencing wire Ive used will rust out eventually too - but I reckon I'll lose the sinker before that happens

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2 hours ago, yellow door 1 said:

 80lb brown stainless makes a more subdued package and should hold on the bigger hook

Big fail on the 80lb wire - it cuts through 30lb mono at 4kg of pressure

 

[dmck 639]

3 hours ago, yellow door 1 said:

Yeah Nice one the Galvanised fencing wire Ive used will rust out eventually too - but I reckon I'll lose the sinker before that happens

Rusting problem with mine was I kept them in an ice-cream tub (no lid) and they got salt water (spray etc) in the tub... and I didnt empty..

Now the "new ones" are in sealed food containers and cant get wet.

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26 minutes ago, dmck said:

Rusting problem with mine was I kept them in an ice-cream tub (no lid) and they got salt water (spray etc) in the tub... and I didnt empty..

Now the "new ones" are in sealed food containers and cant get wet.

Yeah I seal up all my rigs etc in air tight containers these days - learnt that the hard way aswell

 

[dmck 639]

22 hours ago, yellow door 1 said:

Big fail on the 80lb wire - it cuts through 30lb mono at 4kg of pressure

 

How/why? is there some deformity (ridge?) on the wire that makes a pressure point?

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26 minutes ago, dmck said:

How/why? is there some deformity (ridge?) on the wire that makes a pressure point?

I tested it 3 times and it kept cutting - I think the thin wire acts like a knife point on the mono - like those wire cheese cutters

There was also some stretching of the twists and elongation of the rig - so maybe that had something to do with it.

No holes fully closed in but they did get smaller before the mono snapped

There is a chance I put some scuff marks on the wire but I dont think so - I was was using smooth round nose pliers to form the loops

I was using 30lb berkley trilene mono which isnt know for its abrasion resistance - but it should have held way longer than 8lb - 10lb

 

 

 

[dmck 639]

what is/was the dia of the wire?

Ive just got some SS 'welding filler" to try, approx 1.2mm diam- 

Its pretty hard/stiff and may be too difficult to shape.. but I'll have a go and report.

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2 hours ago, dmck said:

what is/was the dia of the wire?

Ive just got some SS 'welding filler" to try, approx 1.2mm diam- 

Its pretty hard/stiff and may be too difficult to shape.. but I'll have a go and report.

Not sure of 80lb brown stainless's diametre but its super thin.

Its also pretty hard to work with compared to Galvanised fencing wire. The gal wire bends when you want it to and stays there, but the stainless is always fighting to get back to where it was.

I just went out and bought some .90mm gal wire as I was finding the 1.25mm gal wire too chunky.

Heres the silver .90 gal wire next to the brown 80lb stainless

I tested the 30lb mono with the .90mm gal wire and it got to 22lb of pull, so I stopped pulling.

The thinness of the Stainless wire I had, was most likely what was cutting the 30lb mono line

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This photo shows the difference a bit better

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Ahh Im glad I took those close ups - I think I tested the single loop version on the smaller hook - not the double loop on the bigger hook - the double loop may spread the load a little better  - Ill test that

 

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Nah -no good -  the double loop didn’t do much

 

got to 5.2 kg or around 11.5lb, before cutting the 30lb mono. 
 

The wire is too thin even when you double it

[Soobz 559]

Perhaps 316 MIG welding wire, it's pretty strong though so a bit hard to bend.

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3 hours ago, Soobz said:

Perhaps 316 MIG welding wire, it's pretty strong though so a bit hard to bend.

Yeah Im finding I'm willing to sacrifice thinness for stuff thats easy to bend - the .90 gal wire has the strength I need and is fat enough to not cut my leaders.

I gave the wire harness a go yesterday - and it has its draw backs - I suspect it might hurt hook up ratios and its harder to clear the weed from the twisted metal

 

 

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Now with line gripper

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Giving the scaler bag a run
 

 

[Softy 2,991]

Nice haul!