Jay R

Isnt that the whole reason for some of these new "organizations", all some have done is attempt to divide recreational fishers. Nothing to add to the discussion, agree with him or get either abuse or blocked.

Good points RJ and Kon,  as always, on point!!
You covered a whole lot of concerns and realityt that I’m sure many haven’t even thought about but will very well be part of reality.
 
In regards to elected members to sit on the council:
 
Last I read, The forum being included couldn’t agree on who was suitable to run for the council, they didn’t have a suitable female amongst their ranks, and their loyal leader is too busy collecting benefits and running the forum to do anything else.
They only had one person locked in, and he isn’t exactly a local.
 
As for the other 2 “organizations”, do they even have more than 3 members each to throw into the mix? I figured it was 2 guys, 2 separate organizations and a dormant laminating machine waiting for new member cards..
That’s unless they can put forward Facebook likes as sitting members?
 

We have nothing to be ashamed about as everyone is entitled to their opinions whether others agree or not.
Obviously you have strong views and others have strong views on this topic, but your other statement wasn't necessary.
Maybe everyone should agree to disagree.
 

Your a pig Mate,nothing short of it. All three groups that are on the council have more members than RFSA individually. What you need to get into your head is - SA voted- - RFSA is gone as the representative body July 1. The Ministers Recreational Fishing Advisory Council is on the table now. This Council and the Minister will then decide the best approach for forming the Representative body to replace RFSA. 
FB is only one avenue to communicate - but powerful enough to convince a Government to make change. 
We are having a get together night soon, all those that fought for change will be there. How about you Man up and come make those accusations face to face. Or, just hide and keep making gutless remarks about good people ! ?
This forum should be ashamed  of itself for allowing this behaviour !!

With respect AD,
To achieve any outcome at all, the place to do that would be in the yet-to-be-created Fisheries Council - not social media - and in order to achieve a good outcome for rec's, the arguments put to that overriding Council by our representative(s) will need to be 100% valid, supported by facts and (somehow) agreed by the majority of recs's.
With the election of a new Government the entire face of fishing politics in SA has changed, and we need to change with it. There is no place for continued attacks between members of the rec fishing community. Different points of view should result in respectful discussion and eventual compromise, not short term point scoring.
May be worth remembering that every person who becomes seriously involved in rec fishing representation in this State is a volunteer *, and we will need them all if we're going to progress. There really aren't that many - never has been.
I believe that we have from now until the official formation of the Recreational Fishing Council to get our act together, else the current divisions between our existing organisations will simply be carried into the business of that Council - to the detriment of the entire SA rec community.
Right now the primary focus of our existing organisations should be on overall organisation of the SA rec sector, not individual fishing issues (KGW, SBT etc). We get one chance to get the foundations right.
Cheers,
RJ
* For about 40 years, the only paid rec fishing representatives in SA have been the successive Executive Officers of SARFAC/RFSA.

So you didn't block me, you had "admin" block me, but some how you don't know who I am.....If that the case, how can you be sure your admin blocked me?    You make zero sense. and as per usual going on some tangent instead of focusing on the question at hand.
The fact remains RecFish are still the peak body (initial question asked of this thread), and the liberal government have confirmed Recfish have a valid contract till next year.
The libs have again said they are looking at forming some form of council with the exact details yet to be confirmed.
But Yelliwtail, please be sure to keep us in the loop when something comes to fruition from all your hard work.

Rotare touched on three things which seem to be under the radar for most people;

1. I have always cringed at the supposed argument of "get a feed of fish for the family" - it is a recreational pastime, not some form of subsistence necessity.

2. Likewise, the bleating about "not worth putting my boat in the water for X whiting or Y snapper" - it is a recreation, not an expense-neutral exercise let alone a defacto money-making venture. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy a $50K (or whatever) boat in the first place. And if cost per se is the main determinant in terms of "a feed of fish", much cheaper to go to a seafood outlet than do it from your own boat.

3. There is a difference between being "as firm as circumstances allow" and "absolutist-combative on principle" when it comes to representation. The latter, whilst all well and good in a sympathetic audience echo-chamber, is hardly an advisable approach to take (for the sake of professional image and credibility for a start) when dealing with the likes of government departments.... who are the ones who will make final determination regarding any rule changes in any case.

To add another consideration to what Wahoo said - those who constantly push the theme of "what have RFSA done for us" would do well to keep in mind that, for instance, the RFSA rep at the much-derided Marine Parks "secret meeting" was in no small measure responsible for SA ending up with closer to 6% than 10% SZ content.
But the nature of the beast is what it is - "wins" are relatively infrequent, at best the wolves are kept from the door for the most part.
The new RFC (or is it RFAC now?) will have to put up with all the same stuff...

So to finish the topic a couple more pics.👍
A few little surprises in with the worms.
Drying before a metho dip.

Double bagged ready for the freezer.👌
Cheers

Hi Aussie Dave,
Love your posts this year so please don't take this as an attack on your views which I believe you are more than entitled to have. But I would like to step in here just to highlight that not all rec fishers fully support the ideals of SAFA etc.
While I don't think SA has the optimal rec fishing representation currently I am very cautious about supporting rec fishing bodies like SAFA. My caution comes from some of the material I read from their site which is clearly wrong or demonstrates a lack of ecological understanding.
A bit about me, I am not aligned with any particular rec fishing body - I follow all of them as I believe they are united in the overarching goal to make rec fishing better and fairer, so in that they all have my support. I am a keen recfisherman since forever, I also have a PhD in Aquatic ecology and spend a great deal of my time learning about fish biology/physiology and about our aquatic ecosystems.
So in saying this I do support recfish SA's stance on marine parks and am glad we have them - whether they are in the correct places is outside the scope of this post to debate so let’s just leave that there.
I am happy with the 20 blue crab limit for recs – I am not happy about the pro situation
I do not support the commercial export of KGW (who can afford to buy local whiting??) and think the bag limit for recs is very low. But I am happy to cop it on the chin if it means stock replenishment.
I was not fussed by the recent cuts to rec bag limits and think that some are still way too high. Boats limits of 30 for flathead (we don’t even have a flathead fishery in SA) and bream are ridiculous and show a total lack of knowledge about rec fishing from PIRSA (imagine we all went and ripped 30 big bream out of the Port on a weekly basis). The population of people keeps growing therefore the bag and boat limits can only keep decreasing if we are to remain sustainable. More thought needs to be given towards the sustainability of commercial fisheries given the small percentage of people these industries represent when compared to the increase in general population and the economic contributions rec fishers make. In that I do agree with SAFA as I believe I have read similar on their site before.
So that’s all from me I hope people read this in the respectful tone it was intended. Keep fighting the good fight. We’ll get there eventually.
Peace
mrfish

Um,not quite 😂😂😂
You nor RecfishCentral represent ANYONE on ANY Council at this point in time.
You’ve just posted another promotional political article published in a small newspaper about the same concept that’s been spruiked pre election.
The liberals havnt firmed anything up other than the fact RecFish are still the peak body and have a valid contract till next year.
By all means tho, please do check in and let us know when something actually happens.
 
 

Hows this working out for you Mr Keegan?
 
Supposedly 277,000 Anglers have an invested interest in this situation, you claim to represent how many of them?
Whats the update from SAFA?
 
RecfishCENTRAL who claim to represent .08% of them has come out with the attached  "media release" admitting he and his members may have very well been shafted
libs_break_policy.pdf

Hows this working out for you Mr Keegan?
 
Supposedly 277,000 Anglers have an invested interest in this situation, you claim to represent how many of them?
Whats the update from SAFA?
 
RecfishCENTRAL who claim to represent .08% of them has come out with the attached  "media release" admitting he and his members may have very well been shafted
libs_break_policy.pdf

An update arising from Tuesday night`s RFSA Forum, from Upper Spencer Gulf RFC Rep.
 
 

Tim Whetstone (no longer the pre-election David Ridgway) is now the go-to person.

Tim Whetstone is a busy man.
https://www.facebook.com/TimWhetstoneMP/photos/pcb.1525638990833377/1525638944166715/?type=3

Tim Whetstone`s priority list of "things to do" may very well not have the implementation of a new RFC towards the top of the page.

And, just maybe, Tim Whetstone is starting to realise what is involved in creating (essentially) a completely new representative body in terms of legislative, regulatory, administrative and departmental considerations, not to mention functionality handover including any ongoing projects and initiatives.
If anything happens my guess is that it will take months, quite possibly into 2019.

And a bag limit of one tuna seems to be more of a priority for the government at the moment...!

Truth? All I'm seeing is a pre-election pamphlet knocked up by the Liberals outlining what they "promise" to do if elected!!
Anybody who thinks that a government intends to or in fact can realistically deliver on all election promises is delusional.
I, like the rest of this forum will wait and see if this re-structure actually happens, and if so, anything good comes of it.
 

The official pre election policy statement is in the below link, any thing else is hearsay as far as I'm concerned
Again, this was PRE ELECTION.
Again, (happy to be proven wrong) I can't see it anywhere being stated as being implemented within 100 days of taking office.
https://www.stevenmarshall.com.au/representation_for_recreational_and_commercial_fishers
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/liberalpartyofaustralia/pages/4920/attachments/original/1511994352/POLICY_RECREATIONAL_FISHING_COUNCIL.pdf?1511994352
Of note, I see PIRSA will be for the better word, the gate keeper's.

That "media release" is nothing more than some soap boxing from those within a forum admin group and a couple self proclaimed advisory groups.
Until I see an official release from some one within the new government I wont believe a word from any of the people quoted in that badly structured and amateur onlne PDF.
 
We've had a new government for all of 2 days, I'm sure right at the top of their priority is to address recreational fishing politics hahaha
 
 

Truth? All I'm seeing is a pre-election pamphlet knocked up by the Liberals outlining what they "promise" to do if elected!!
Anybody who thinks that a government intends to or in fact can realistically deliver on all election promises is delusional.
I, like the rest of this forum will wait and see if this re-structure actually happens, and if so, anything good comes of it.
 

According to the policy above, no, RecfishSA are to be part of the new body.
"We will establish a new body for recreational fishers, including representatives of Recfish SA, ...."
Just to make sure we're talking the truth not assumptions.

Do you understand that a pre-election policy means nothing? This is just what they plan to do not what they have done. They still need to implement this and im not saying they wont but it wouldnt be the first government to back-flip on a pre-election promise. How about waiting to see what they actually do before getting too carried away. 

LOL, Feel free to link on here any slandering I’ve done Graham… just pointing out facts that’s all.
By the way, give a rats what you or any other facebook/forum admin think of me.

Only 3 members of the new government have been sworn in. The remainder get sworn in on Thursday. Pretty sure this wont be the #1 thing they do when they do. 

I’ve never found them to descriminate, yesty they ate 3 different divers n the biggest went the skirt in the motor wash . 
Hardest part of tuna fishing is finding them, the rest is easy.

I’ve never found them to descriminate, yesty they ate 3 different divers n the biggest went the skirt in the motor wash . 
Hardest part of tuna fishing is finding them, the rest is easy.

I’ve never found them to descriminate, yesty they ate 3 different divers n the biggest went the skirt in the motor wash . 
Hardest part of tuna fishing is finding them, the rest is easy.