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Cheers for sharing Jimbo! Love the fight a good Eagly puts up!

Was on the Port river yesterday morning chasing the elusive Mulloway . Got to the boat ramp to meet a good mate Jack at 4:30am . Headed out to his spot and arrived to realise my rod was not set up properly , spew . So while the fellas cast out there lines i sat there re rigging my line . Was a bit frustrating but i have learnt in the past that this usually works in my favour . Got my line in and was waiting a bit before Jack pulled his line in to check and in doing so pulled it across my line so when i went to reel in my rig was snagged on the bottom ? Busted my line trying to reel in so had to re-rig again . Jack had two lines in and said if the one goes while i was re-rigging my line then to grab it as if it was mine . Just tied the last knot and whammo the drag leaps into screaming life and i jum u and set the hooks . Unfortunately this rod and reel only had 20lb braid on it and this was definitely a decent Mulloway and after 2 min of it peeling line and toying with my it found structure and busted me off , spew ? Baited up my lineand cast out again and about 8min later my line was getting decent nibbles so i struck and with that an eagle ray leapt over 6ft into the air before taking off like a shower of shit peeling my line from my reel a a high rate of knots . Another leap or two and i started gaining line , when i got it boat side and it took of again and then we managed to get it into an undersized net . Awesome fun and thank you heaps again Jack .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLRht9GIIDw

Good info Grazz - and a good discussion by everyone. As well as the issues you've all been talking about, the problem I have with the whole concept is the fact that 18,000,000 kg of wild fish would be taken from the Aust Marine environment every year and sold overseas for just $1 per kilo. The first 15,000,000 kg have to be sold to pay for the cost of actually catching them. It was reported that pro fishermen who sell their quotas to Seafish Tas would be paid $0.10 per kg. Makes no sense and devalues the marine environment that we manage. If this is such a great economic idea why not use farmed Basa for the purpose?2 cents...Cheers,RJ

Four Corners was very interesting and at the same time very alarming. I have very little faith in AFMA now to do what is in the best interest of sustainable fishing, i have even less faith that it is independent and cant be swayed.Gerry Geene has his seen his profit margin decline over the last few years as fish have gotten harder to find while holding approximately half of the allowable quota to be taken in Australian waters. This would be costing him a great deal i imagine. So what does he decide to do bring a Super Trawler to our waters and clean up while we can as things are only going to get more difficult. He bases his whole argument on ten year old science, the numbers of Jack Mackerel out there is unknown today as we speak.He admits himself we are finding it harder to find our quotas of this species as the fish aren't here anymore the numbers they used to be. Why is that Gerry why haven't you tried to understand why this is the case, fund the science. I'll tell you why its because the results would probably damning to your required needs.He tells us we modified the nets they work, when in fact they don't work as well as we've been lead to believe, when their own footage showed this wasn't the case they tried to cover it up, bury it and AFMA assisted in this. I have no faith in AFMA anymore they are as crooked in my opinion as the tossers that own the boat and Gerry Greene for that matter. The modifications will allow 40% to 100% of Seals Dolphins etc to escape, what the hell kind of figures are they 40% to 100%, if Rec fishers brought any figures like that to the debate we'd be laughed out the building. Geene also states we are only going to take 7%, 7% is fine but when you don't know what the real numbers are of Jack Mackerel today in our waters how do you measure 7%. He basis his argument on "this is a commercial enterprise" ie what hes saying is we want to make as much as we can as cheap as we can as quickly as we can and we have 10 year old science to support our argument that we should be allowed to do this. Get stuffed Gerry. The bycatch from these nets would be massive, 70% percent of the bycatch that gets tossed back in the water is dead or dying when trawled from great depths if anyone ever tries to tell you different they are lying. 70% is a conservative number as well its possibly more like 85% in reality.Colin Buxton Director of the Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies spews out the same figures "they were going to take 10% but revised that to 7.5%, we are only going to take 7.5% now'He doesn't know what numbers of Jack Mackerel are present in Australian waters as the studies are ten years old, he's aware the stocks are harder to find and agrees they are further south and also sitting off the continental shelf. So how does he know 7.5% is really 7.5% i find this absolutely laughable and probably the dumbest thing i have heard come from an educated man. A suspicious person would think he has another agenda to support. Every bit of our (Rec Fishers) argument is scrutinised and must have a basis of some fact this is demanded of us yet these clowns are allowed to debate based on ten year old science that is no longer relevant today. Everyone is in agreement with this even Geene feels global warming has had a significant impact on stocks looking for cooler waters he's seen his bottom line decreasing he knows better than most.Colin Buxton also thought we are silly to think the Trawler would sit in one spot and take everything that was there, he doesn't think that would happen. What a load of bull of course that is what would happen when all that matters is the bottom line and the Trawler has been guilty of this on numerous occasions already. Why was Geene reluctant to admit they were buying up or leasing quotas form other local pro fisherman in order to raise their allowable quota and when pressed on the issue spewed out "well it is a commercial enterprise" Already they been seen to be deceptive so whats stopping them from deception in the future, their conscience. Give me a break. Wouldn't mind seeing a Royal Commision into this whole thing includings AFMA's involvement and what else they've assisted in burying in order to get the Trawler fishing here.One thing Ive learnt is those people that have money are the hardest to get it from and they are never satisfied and always want to be wealthier with little or no regard for people fauna or environment. I don't understand Geene's stupidity in an industry that has to be sustainablefor him and his business to survive into the future unless he only see's himself in it for not to much longer and the Super Trawler his retirement package. Big assumption i know but you tell me what his thought process is then. Why would he risk the same thing happening here that has happened everywhere else the Trawlers been. Wouldn't it be in his best interest to fund the science or assist with funding to acquire more up to date science to ensure sustainability. Why was Dirk Van Der Plas under the impression the Trawler would be here indefinitely when everywhere its been its had to move on to find more viable waters in order to turn a profit. These views and suspicions are entirely my own and in no way a reflection of Strike & Hook'sopinion to the best of my knowledge. Four Corners has raised many more questions for me and shown Geene to be a deceptive character. No Super Trawler never ever and Graham Pyke you are a God to me and to all Rec Fishers in Tasmania i bow in your general direction you are worth your wait in gold.There are 5 million Rec Fishers in this country when the hell are we going to start wielding the power we have. An email or a letter cost practicaly nothing to send our/your State and Federal Goverment and reminding them they are elected by the people for the people and we dont want Super Trawlers fishing in Australian waters ever or you'll find yourself in opposition. This always makes me feel better for about ten minutes. A much bigger rant than i was intending but this whole thing stinks to the core.

with the bigger lens zoomed in.. this is one of the three ships at anchor

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65 out of 81 Snapper were undersized measuring below 28cm????? Hardly worth trying to eat at that size let alone the illegal aspect!!It still puzzles me as to why the legal length in Victoria is 28cm. Hope they throw the damned book at these idiots!! It's people like these tossers who, when they get caught, cause the restrictions on those who do the right thing to be tightened. Morons!!!

65 out of 81 Snapper were undersized measuring below 28cm????? Hardly worth trying to eat at that size let alone the illegal aspect!!It still puzzles me as to why the legal length in Victoria is 28cm. Hope they throw the damned book at these idiots!! It's people like these tossers who, when they get caught, cause the restrictions on those who do the right thing to be tightened. Morons!!!

65 out of 81 Snapper were undersized measuring below 28cm????? Hardly worth trying to eat at that size let alone the illegal aspect!!It still puzzles me as to why the legal length in Victoria is 28cm. Hope they throw the damned book at these idiots!! It's people like these tossers who, when they get caught, cause the restrictions on those who do the right thing to be tightened. Morons!!!

A mate of mine pointed this article out to me this morning.http://www.seabreeze.com.au/News/Fishing/VIC-Two-huge-illegal-snapper-hauls-uncovered_6015592.aspxMy jaw is still on the table. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!Well done on the fisheries who caught these scum bags..My proposal for the seized boats / cars.Rip the engine/s and sounder/GPS off and sell them off. Then, tow the boat and cars in the area they fished and sink them.Give the snapper (that are remaining) a new home.I am still dumb founded that the VIC size limit for snapper is only 28cm. ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUSAnd no wonder they don’t get the regular BIG REDS, COS THEY DONT HAVE A CHANCE TO GROW!!!!!!!GRRRRRRant over...

Read the guys feedback Crispy. Can tell a whole story.Personally, never used Pelagic gear but haven't heard a lot of positives from other users either.I think it would be buyer beware.PLEASE NOTE THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION ONLY

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/price-rise-warning-as-commercial-snapper-fishing-ban-extended/story-e6frea6u-1226490959763I went WTF? when I saw this bit;The Marine Fishers Association has warned that allowing recreational anglers on to the water before commercial operators will disturb schools of snapper and make it harder for the industry to catch large volumes for sale once the commercial season opens.And this, aww diddums...This could reduce supply and double or triple the wholesale price, MFA chairman Mike Fooks said."It could be anything up to $15 a kilo for whole fish," he said.Translation - this year the glut from the excess slaughter won`t be offloaded for a pittance to end up in pet food cans? :whistle:

On the face of it, this appears to be good news.I think that the first two weeks of December for this year could also be used as an opportunity to assess the effect of recreational fishing on snapper without commercial interference.Lets hope PIRSA/SARDI use those two weeks as a scientific opportunity as well.TB

Thanks eeles.The limits of 5 per person, 15 per boat... Have they done away with the 2 over 60cm and 5 under 60cm per person / max 6 over 60cm per boat and 15 under 60cm boat limit??

The new snapper fishing rules> Ban on snapper fishing from November 1 to December 15 for commercial fishers in 2012.> Extended ban to apply to all sectors - commercial, recreational and charter - from 2013.> New limits of up to five fish per person and up to 15 fish per boat.> From December 15, commercial daily catch limit of 500kg and limit of 200 hooks on long lines.

Berkley have good Mono. I use 30lb Trilene. Never had a problem with it. Have found that Braid is a pain in the ass in the surf.Don't use PENN gear so can't help with that part. I use Overheads for the surf.As for the rod, I have heard the Sensor Surf is a great rod but my personal preference is Snyder Glas. Only draw back is the Snyder can feel heavy after a while.I am sure that whatever you do chose to go with, you will be fine. Make sure you get a 'feel' for the combo in the shop before you purchase and you should be good to go!

@ Dan1They are a Mud Crab Trap.They are illegal to use in SA waters.They are not illegal to sell in SA because you may wish to purchase them if you are going away to the states that they are legal to use.We have them in stock as they are advertised in our National Catalogues.You as the user must be aware at all times what you are allowed or not allowed to use.We tell our customers that they are not legal. That is our choice, but if the customer chooses to use them than that is their choice.

Damn straight it should!I have no sympathy for AFMA and their failure to follow due processes.Surely this was a case of snouts in troughs and AFMA are not so stupid?http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/breaking-news/fish-authority-admits-it-broke-the-rules/story-e6frea7l-1226474697363TB

So what...do we not have the right to legislate against foreign interests in our own lands and waters?What does this mean Gerry? You should have the right to plunder our oceans in secret?Well how's this Gerry!Since the preparations for this venture started seven years ago jack mackeral populations in the southern hemisphere have plummeted 63% because of these trawlers. No wonder you prefer the science from 10 years ago?Hows that for honesty Gerry.... Why should good governments been persecuted by EU scum for wanting to protect their own peoples interests for sustainability?http://www.naroomanewsonline.com.au/story/334802/netherlands-raises-trawler-ban-with-eu/?cs=7http://www.smh.com.au/environment/bigger-fish-to-fry-in-trawler-ban-20120914-25xms.htmlThese EU proponents remind me of that 007 movie "The World Is Not Enough".Does anyone else think this issue is the thin of the wedge for what is left of our national soveriegnty?TB

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-12/government-facing-roadblock-over-super-trawler-laws/4256344#commentsI think its about time to send our ministers another round of emails?The Dutch can get stuffed.TB

Labor doing what they do best...pretending to care about their constituents!'Snouts in troughs' win again!TB

Hi RJ,Great email by the way.One thing we must remember is that mackeral are abundant and not excessively eaten by white middle class Aussies. This is the rationale for the prices we pay for the species we buy in local markets. In the main we utilise mackeral as bait for larger pelagics.This is not the case however for some other parts of the world as many of us know.My displeasure of this issue surrounds these facts primarily.1)I can find no peer reviewed science promoting a sustainable fisheries management regime which includes these trawlers.2)The potential for localised depletion due to sheer capacity in only a few net drops.3)The reason this ship is coming here is to provide a protein source for the human populations its fishing methods have environmentally destroyed.TB

Ok so i have taken the plunge and am going to start a Carp competition . Not sure how this will pan out but i will try my best to make this work . This will be a trial run to get most of the bugs out from organising a comp with a future comp over summer in mind . It will start tomorrow fri 3rd August till mon 22nd oct . Hope fully there will be some prizes involved even if they come out of my own pocket , for 1st 2nd an 3rd but i think i will have to do two categories . Length and weight . Most people have a brag mat or a tape measure , but if you have digital scales you could use them . I reckon a photo of the fish with tape measure or scales and a sign with Strike and hook and your username on it so , we can identify who's catch and size it is , will be ok for now but hope to get a page up for download in future . There will be some rules involved and they are on the group site for anyone who enters the comp . They should also go to this group to show their interest , opinions and suggestions . That is if we dont just do it on this page ? Hope this works and we all have a bit of fun ?

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