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7kg or 72 fillets is certainly a huge grey area. 2 fillets = 1 fish (obviously unless your filleter isn't skilled! ) and depending on size could be as little as 40 fillets or less of KGW. If the fish are large, 4 fillets could easily equal a kilogram making the total take around 28 fillets. Doubt anyone will be willing to travel to places like the Eyre Peninsula or even Yorkes for a 2 week trip if all you can take is 28 fillets.Once the government start talking Snapper, Weight limits or Quantity of fillets will be a much bigger issue. Weight v's Quantity is always going to cause problems. Should be Quantity only.

I agree, do not use braid without a level wind on an overhead reel. Bad for your fingers.I too use ABU 7000s and a 9000. I have an ABU7000 that I bought 30 years ago. Still on its original level wind. Cost me $120 back then, made in Sweden obviously. I also use a TLD25 with 50lb mono and a 9ft LBG rod on occasion and am always surprised how well the TLD casts. If I want to fish with braid for whatever reason from the beach I use a spinning reel in the 6000 to 8000 range. I hate braid on the beach except for the times when there is absolutely no weed. If you are holding your rod then no worries, but don't put it in a rod holder as any slack when you hook some weed and you will lose most of your braid in an almighty tangle.

The only problem I see with the possession limit is that, as usuall any change be it size limit, bag limit & now possession limit it only affects the people who do the right thing/obey the rules anyway. the people that catch as many as they like of what ever size they want & keep the lot will continue to do this so will not be affected because the rules are not policed enoughAs has been said many times before, we need more fisheries officers & they need to be out there when the people are out thereYorky

Hey All,Article in todays paper regarding Possession Limits. SPecifically mentioned are KGW, Cockles and Razorfish. More to come I would think.http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/possession-limits-set-for-whiting-goolwa-cockles-and-razorfish/story-e6frea83-1226437894559Cheers,Boyo

I like the abu's, but LOVE my Okuma magnetix for beach casting. Great reel, but I can't use it anymore. Casts better than boyo's Abu 7000

Hey All,Article in todays paper regarding Possession Limits. SPecifically mentioned are KGW, Cockles and Razorfish. More to come I would think.http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/possession-limits-set-for-whiting-goolwa-cockles-and-razorfish/story-e6frea83-1226437894559Cheers,Boyo

Im with horses ive always used ABU 7000 and 10000 they have always been reliable and both mine are ten years old now and still working well and when im not surf fishing with them you can put them on your snapper road and use them in the boat good all round reel

I like the old school ABU's in 7000 and 10,000 sizes..........had them for 30 odd years........with regular maintainance and TLC with last that again Like using mono on beaches that are "shell gritty" like Browns Beach and spots along Salt Creek.........if I know there's no reefy / rocky area,I like to use braid.A good tip for using braid on an overhead..........make sure your reel has a level wind system,or your fingers will shred in no time at all :ohmy:

I often use to order fish and chips as a pub meal.Haven't for a while now.In fact I will not eat any white fleshy fish of unknown origin, ie fish and chip shop and frozen fillets.Actually, the only fish I eat now is what I catch and cook fresh myself. You know what it is and it tastes better anyway.Therefore, I don't eat much fish anymore

First post and asking for marks mate? :dry: Normally we suggest hanging around the forums, making some friends and contributing a bit before getting straight into asking people for marks.

http://www.australianmarinealliance.com.au/about.htmlWe are being screwed.TB

Hello all,Was just perusing a copy of Geoff Wilsons "Snapper Success" and it made mention of a study comminsioned by the Victorian Government in 1997 compiled by the National Institute of Economic and Industry Research.Interested, i decided to do somefurther reading, here is a summary for those interested.THE ECONOMIC VALUE OF RECREATIONAL FISHINGFisheries Economic Impact Studies - Economic Impact of Recreational Fishing in Victoria July 1997 - Fisheries Victoria.‘Fisheries Economic Impact Studies. Economic Impact of Recreational Fishing in Victoria July 1997 by Fisheries Victoria’ the economic worth of recreational fishing in Victoria’s North East was worth $171 million per year.The following quotes are taken directly from the Fisheries Victoria report;p1 “ Results from the study indicate that in the last year an estimated $1.037 billion was spent on recreational fishing activities in Victoria . . . this represents approximately $200 spent per kilogram of fish caught and kept. The contribution of the recreational fishing sector (including support industries) to the Victorian economy (Gross State Product) is estimated to be $1.265 billion per annum, and the provision of fishing related goods and services generates approximately 27,000 jobs annually . . . Melbourne region made the largest contribution to Gross Regional Product ($765 million per annum), North East ($171 million), South East ($144 million), South West ($106 million), North West ($76 million)”.p9 “Allocation of recorded expenditure items as fishing expenditure; Fishing Tackle Bait 0.7%, travel, accomodation, fuel, food and drink, hire fees 2.7%, fishing equipment and specialised clothing 12%, Boats, 4WD’s etc 83.4%”p23 “the north east and south east regions attracted the highest proporation of fishers who made overnight trips:p25Area Average per capita fishing related Average number nights stayed Average per capita annual capital expenditure by RegionMelb $21.52 0.49 $740.98North East $27.53 1.21 $127.12North West $16.52 0.70 $107.25South East $50.02 2.30 $171.17South West $38.33 1.06 $304.95 p26 Estimate of gross expenditure on recreational fishing in Victoriaregion gross current (trip related expenditure $m) gross capital expenditure $m total gross expenditure $m % of Vic expenditureMelbourne 140.8 465.8 606.6 58.4North East 38.7 80.0 118.8 11.4North West 25.2 70.4 95.6 9.2South East 40.8 75.6 116.4 11.2South West 32.0 67.7 99.7 9.6Total 277.5 759.5 1037.1 100.00p28Contribution to gross state product (gsp) total south eastGross State Product ($million in 96) $1265 $ 144Employment Generated 27,000 3,300household disposable income ($million) 830 $ 99In summary, to paraphrase :"$200 per kilo of fish caught and kept by recreatioal anglers. This generates many times the wealth than that per kilo of fish caught by the commercial sector. In summary, recreational fishing is economically more important than the commercial fishing sector."

Bloody wicked shots there RN! Cheers for sharing!!!

THIS is what happenes when you get a strike less than 80mtrs away.. ummm yeah... we packed up and got in car pretty quick.. http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i7/nifty_2006/july2012038.jpghttp://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i7/nifty_2006/july2012039.jpghttp://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i7/nifty_2006/july2012040.jpghttp://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i7/nifty_2006/july2012036.jpg

Great shots Jimbo.Sure was icey this morning. Son and i headed out for a fish early.Highlight of the morning was watching my son(10) get his PB reddie, 35cm.I'll add a few of shots i took a few years ago. One of the fence shots was shown of Channel Tens Extreme Weather photos.

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Was out nice an early . Trying to catch some fish . Didn't catch anything hence the trying but on my way out there i did take these photos witch really let you know how cool it was this morning ?

It would make a great snapper drop

As of 4.20pm 1.7.2012 the MV MARGIRIS is still tied up in the Port of Ijmuiden.Maybe G.P can weld the hull to the dock somehow, that would %$#@ em wouldn,t it.

It is nice to see, that for once, Green Peace is doing something usefull

Read the guys feedback Crispy. Can tell a whole story.Personally, never used Pelagic gear but haven't heard a lot of positives from other users either.I think it would be buyer beware.PLEASE NOTE THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION ONLY

I posted this on FSA, but maybe it'd be a bit of help here as well?Problem is that the MPA process has been going for so long and with so many twists and turns along the way that anyone who wants to understand what's been (and is) happening hasn't got a hope of catching up. If they can't catch up they're less likely to get involved, and we need all the help we can muster.Cheers,RJIt’s probably about time it was done without the spin applied to these things by DENR and the conservationists. This has been my experience, others might see it differently. I've skipped over a whole bunch of associated issues in order to get the basic story told.Make a cuppa, this is going to take a while.The Australian Government agreed to implement Marine Protected Areas (MPA’s) at an international conference in the 1990’s. Who knows why – I sure don’t.The responsibility for implementing the State MPA’s was farmed out to each State Govt along with a wad of cash, and the Federal Govt started working on MPA’s for areas outside of State waters all around Australia. These are essentially in waters more than 3 nm from the coast out to the Australian EEZ boundaries (about 200 km) think Coral Sea, Great Barrier Reef etcWe need to follow the State MPA path from here, and get back to the Commonwealth MPA’s a bit later on.The first trial of a State MPA in SA was the Encounter Marine Park (southern Fleurieu and KI) in 2001. It had every kind of zoning and was fiercely debated. In the end it was a debacle, with key stakeholders unable to agree on just about anything mainly because the conservationists pushed hard for all kind of restrictions. There were a whole bunch of MPA acronyms introduced about this time:-• CAR principle - Comprehensive, Adequate, Representative• Precautionary Principle (leave you to look that one up for yourself )• SARSMPA – South Australian Representative System of MPA’s• Marxan - computer software to determine the optimal location for MPA’s based on a range of input criteria and data.• Bunch of others I’ve forgotten.After this all was very quiet (if you were a rec fisher) and we’re told that a huge amount of research was completed by DENR (then called DEH) and other departments to figure out where Marine Parks should be placed, how many and how big.In 2006 a new Act was presented and debated in Parliament. This was the Marine Parks Act which was passed in 2007 and paved the way for the declaration of 19 Marine Parks around our coastline. This Act also introduced the Marine Parks Council as an intermediary between DENR and the Minister to ensure that all MPA recommendations to the Minister were subjected to examination by people outside of the Govt. (key stakeholders) The MPC is totally biased toward conservationists.Bit more of a quiet period, and then in late 2009 DENR announced the 19 Marine Park locations. This is when things really started to get interesting, but nearly all rec fishers in SA were asleep at the wheel. At this time DENR decided to get involved via the forums, and you’ll be able to easily find that hereabouts, but be warned there’s a lot of reading to do.There was a very large marketing campaign undertaken by DENR in the papers etc to tell us all why we really needed these huge Marine Parks and why we should all love and care for them. You might remember this (one of my all-time favourite DENR posters):- What DENR told us during this campaign was:-• This is not all about fishing (refer to their campaign poster above )• These Marine Parks will have no effect on any current fishing activities • There will be small areas of each park where fishing will be banned.Based on these promises rec fishers in SA remained comatose – what was there to worry about? As a result the Marine Park Boundary public consultation went by with barely a blip on rec fishers Furunos. Part of that consultation included asking everyone where they most liked to fish via a DENR application called SAMPIT. About 1500 fishers (pro and rec) responded and DENR were very pleased. Around this time DENR also created Local Advisory Groups (LAG’s) for each of the Marine Parks. These were composed of people who were local to the area, and who could provide local knowledge and involve their communities in the zoning process. The operation of the LAG’s is a whole story to itself, and you should look at the Select Enquiry submissions to get a bit of an idea about what went on. Some of it wasn’t very pretty, some was downright outrageous.But back to the main story - Soon after that we found out exactly what there was to worry about. Those “small areas where fishing will be banned” morphed into 144 conceptual no-take-zones that were located in all kind of places that we’ve been fishing for probably 60 years or more and overlapped the SAMPIT places that we told DENR about at their request.At the same time the conservationists were in their element and were demanding that 30% of all Marine Parks become no-take-zones (ntz) where all fishing would be banned forever. Considering that our 19 MP’s cover 27.600 square kilometres this would have been a truly enormous area. At that time conservationists were high as kites, and plastered cutesy MPA posters on taxis and billboards around Adelaide. Rec fishers in SA were in deep doo doo. The ntz maps were published by DENR in November 2010 (if you knew where to look) and resulted in an uproar which culminated at a meeting at Burnside Town hall where about 1200 fishers attended. The hall was packed – many couldn’t even get in, but the noise was very clear even from the car park and the media and a few pollies had some fun. None of this seemed to make much difference to DENR or the Minister – who declined the opportunity to attend.The ntz announcement did cause some major developments though :-• Action groups were spontaneously formed across the State to fight against the ntz in each of their local areas.• A Parliamentary Select Committee Inquiry was started and submissions came from all over the State – including from some LAG chairmen and members.• DENR were persuaded to hold zoning ‘information sessions’ in Adelaide. Considering that all the LAG’s were in country areas this was the only opportunity for Adelaide based rec fishers to have a say in the zoning process, and it didn’t work very well.What did work very well were the Action Groups. They fought hard and made some very professional and well researched submissions about zoning in their areas. Talk back radio and letters to the Editor were rife with complaints, and the forums/Facebook went ballistic.And so it went for a quite a few months with DENR maintaining that nothing would change, and that the management plans (zones and all the rest) would be published for public consultation at the end of 2011 and we should all just shut up until then. Didn’t happen. The noise just kept on, and DENR/Govt were also in serious trouble with their compensation/displacement package for the pro’s.Then Mike Rann and Kevin Foley got the boot. This provided a political opportunity for the Govt to shuffle the deck chairs and climb out of the hole they were in. The MPA process was halted.A new era of glasnost was declared by Jay Weatherill and we all waited to see what would happen next. What happened was that DENR has now released a new version of the ntz maps, but this one is based almost entirely on what the Action Groups and LAG’s have recommended for their areas. the number of ntz has been almost halved, and these are much smaller than the previous ntz's. There are still a lot of issues to be uncovered and resolved about MPA’s (beach fishing, enforcement, funding, rules etc etc) but we have to wait (again) until later this year to find out any details. When they are released for ‘review’ (which really must be ‘consultation’) we might find a lot of things that we want to have changed, but for the moment the Marine Parks themselves and the No-take-zones that have recently been published seem to hold no real threats for rec fishers (with the obvious exception of beach fishing).The conclusion I draw from all this is that we need to continue to be very vigilant about what DENR and the conservationists might try to pull next. They have given us very litle reason to trust them in the past. The pollies should by now be completely aware of the likely outcome if they try to screw us over again, and the outcome of the Select Inquiry has yet to be published and that's likely to present a very large mallet to the Opposition to use as they see fit.So all in all it’s not a bad result for rec fishers right now IMO, but it’s come about through the hard work of a minority of rec fishers in SA and we all need to get off our collective butts and provide them with our support when things get a bit sticky again in the future.And I’m pretty sure that things will get a bit sticky again. Rec fishers in Adelaide should consider ourselves lucky with the outcome so far, but we can’t expect to be able to sit back and watch in the future. Wind back the clock to mid-2010 and see just how close you came to losing and don’t let it happen again. Get involved, have your say. You are all needed, don't expect to be carried.Regards,RJ

heard today this was the small school.. another much bigger school was also there.. today? not a fish was spotted.. guessing hiding under the wharf somewhere..

Here's an initiative worth fighting for...Watch Rex Hunts video at the bottom, if that doesn't get you motivated nothing will!http://www.fishingworld.com.au/news/don-t-lock-us-out-campaign-launched
TB