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Berley...What ingredients and how do you do it?

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I thought I'd start a thread on berley as an easy to find go to thread for those who want to know where to start.

 

What ingredients do you all use for certain species? e.g. Blue swimmer crab shells for snapper, squid and cockle shells for whiting, aniseed, bread curry, what ever it is.

 

How do you create your delicacy? Do you mince with an old school meat grinder or mix up with a kitchen mixer/grinder?

 

Do you put it all in a ice cream container and freeze or do you only use fresh?

 

Do you have a special way of distributing your berley? Did you make a home made berley cage or do you launch berley balls with a sling shot?

 

Let us know  :fish:

 

 

 

Underpants - Carp for Berley

 

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bjorn2fish - My first attempt at DIY berley blocks

 

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Kangaroo_Island_Fisherman - Making a Berley Pot Cam!! now I need help identifying a mysterious fish

 

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I rarely ever berley, probably due to me using lures mostly. However, if I am after tommies, gar, salmon trout or even carp I simply use a loaf of bread in various ways. For the first three, simply leaving the bread out to dry and then rubbing a slice between my palms makes lots of little crumbs and some larger pieces. This results in some of the bread floating and some of it slowly sinking, and therefore works the whole water column. You can also add some aniseed bran as well if needed. Alternatively you can create dense breadballs with some aniseed oil or bran if you want to target fish not around the surface.

 

For carp I just make breadballs or doughballs and throw a heap out at a time and then cast my bait in the same area. Can also use corn kernels or even creamed corn for carp in similar technique.

 

Although I don't fish for snapper or boat species often, in the past I have used block pilchards mixed with squid pieces and oil dropped in a berley pot if deeper water than 10m or same berley kept in a bag next to the boat in shallower water.

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Nothing fancy, a combination the first two plus whaterver else is available :

  • frames/heads/skin/guts of tommie, mullet, ST ect
  • old bait, especially stuff thats been unfrozen and refrozen a few times and becomes too soft.
  • crab shells, prawn shells, juice
  • razorfish guts & juices

Usually all gets frozen untill as there is enough accumilated to knock up a batch. The soft stuff usually goes thru a hand mincer on a coarse grind (18mm holes), shells broken up roughly by hand.

 

Or more recently carp thru the garden mulcher.http://www.strikehook.com/index.php/topic/24886-carp-for-burley/

 

A liberal dash of tuna oil, oil leftover from jars of anchovies and a bit of bran(tommies, LJs & sweep love bran!) if things are too juicy! Frozen into 2lt icecream or 750ml takeaway containers.

 

Distributuion 'system' is the tricky part and where im still struggling to learn! Needs to be in the right scenario where it isnt just washed away from where you are trying to fish.

Im a LB fisho so currently a bag made of gutter guard, onion bag or the like. Anchored via a rope with rocks for weight or 1/2 a house brick extended from the roap tail.

 

The latter is great to wade out and drop in a tidal flats hole/gutter on the dusk rising tide with a float & glow stick attached. Sit back and cast in the dark to the perfect spot.

 

All said, nothing wrong with a tin of Black & Gold sardines catfood, a dash of tuna oil and 1/2 doz handfulls of chook pellets (old bread, bread crumbs, bran ect). Great to throw out by hand into the feed zone or mash into a feed spring/sinker.

 

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A good berley should contain different densities of ingredients, so that it completely fills the water column.

 

-cockle or crab shells which sit in the bottom

-fish flesh which suspends mid water

-cereals which float near the surface

-oil to bind the berley and spread the scent

 

A berley trail must be ongoing and unbroken, which the fish can follow to your boat, so if berleying by hand, small amounts frequently.

 

A berley should be used to attract the fish, not feed them, although it can contain chunks of whatever bait you are using to help hide the fact that some pieces will contain hooks.

 

For my berley I always used whtever was at hand at the time. Old bait, out of date fish, cockle or crab shells, prawn heads and shells, then I'd raid the pantry to add cereals (bread, corn flakes, etc), cans of sardines, dog food, whatever I could find.

 

I'd shred my berley in the wifes food processor, add some tuna or fish oil, then freeze it in individual containers which were the right size to fit into my berley pot.....as the berley thaws in the water a constant trail is let out.

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My snapper/shark/reef fish berley is crushed pilchards, old frames of any kind in a berley cage one the bottom. I don't use berley for KGW.

 

My all purpose berley for tommies, mullet, salmon etc off the beach or in the boat is chicken pellets soaked in a blend of tuna oil and pilchard oil in about a 3 to 1 mix (more tuna oil).

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Here's my burley selection for different species:

 

Snapper: frozen burley block from the tackle shop.

 

Tommies / gar: off the shelf chook pellets soaked in tuna oil

 

Whiting: pilchards, old cockles, squid heads. Basically anything but pellets as I find pellet burley on the bottom just brings in the crappies and tends to spook the whiting.

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I just put the whole snapper block in a scaler bag mate. It's weighed down with a 9lb dive weight as they tend to want to float when still frozen solid.

 

The whiting burley I leave chunky and use a wire mesh cage style burley pot. I find with whiting the smell will keep them close as much as the food itself. Plus if u leave it chunky the wire cage will break off small particles. I find if I mash it up it doesn't last long enough.

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G'day

I haven't made burley much in recent years but when I do, I save up the left over fish guts or in the past I have liaised with a fish shop and got them to fill an esky with fish frames.  Then leave it in the esky to partially thaw, put it through the mulcher and generally in to 2l ice cream containers, but have sometimes used plastic drink containers for small ones to fit in a 90mm pvc burley tube.  Then into vacuum sealer bags (but not vacuumed),   I use some plastic garden mesh for a burley cage and if I think the burley is going to dissipate to quickly I leave it in the plastic and just make some cuts in it.

Cheers

Rod

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i get all my fish guts an frames and anything else  old in the freezer, squid and run thru a $20 garden mulcher mash a bit of bran or vitabrits or weetbixs some tuna oil put it in  containers  big enough to go into  burley buckets top an bottom an away you go.

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Everything I catch & take home gets used 1 way or another. Eat the fillets then the frames go in crab nets or Snapper bait. Squid heads, old re frozen bait, and frames I put in Super G's kitchen wiz. you know the one with the clear bowl? Last time decided to throw a handful of cockles in to make a smorgasbord for the fishies. Well that was clever, they stayed whole for a while and scored the hell out of the inside of the bowl so much ya can't see through it now. 1 happy G? not really. :angry:

berley goes in a 4" X 8" PVC weighted pipe cage made by 1 of my plumbers and down to the bottom to attract the self inflating whiting :lol: 

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I've just emptied my freezer and am about to make up a batch of berley.

 

I had a thought, probably impractical but I wouldn't mind trying it just for the hell of it... Has anyone tried making their own berley pellets?

 

I found a video on Youtube of a bunch of what looked like villagers making berley pellets on a larger scale than I was planning but looked doable.

 

I'm thinking bread/cereals, curry powder, old pillies, cockles all the usuals but something to thicken up the mix a bit? Then I'd have to dry the pellets.

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I don't make pellets just crab, prawn, yabbies and oyster shells, that I introduce to "Mr ANGRY" A long neck Rover muncher that makes a joke of the above left overs and is choice for all types of fish you are chasing. I can make 10 litres in about 20 seconds (sounds like a 747 starting up) Google it at trading place or Gumtree.

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Great playing the destructor with this "toy"

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That is my ultimate goal Panga. I've been looking for a suitable mulcher recently.

 

I thought I'd give an automatic mincer a go. Worked a treat until in my infinite wisdom I shoved a bunch of cockles through it. I killed it :(

 

I managed a few bags of mainly squid and a little cockles.

 

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I've got a mulcher you can borrow Bjorn, it's nowhere as powerful as Pangas but I only paid $30 for it so I don't care if it dies. I've mulched frozen squid, salmon frames and cockles etc and it worked pretty well. I like to throw in bran and pollard with a splash of tuna oil to thicken it up. 

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Thanks for the offer Flukey. I need to get my own anyway, I could use it for garden tidy ups often.

 

Definitely on the lookout Panga. Will probably get one soon.

 

I ended up just doing the softer fish with little to no bones and will save the larger frames, heads etc for when I get a mulcher.

 

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You guys reminded me as I have just come over to the shack so checked out the freezers as I know Mr A is wanting some exercise so I feed him just now.

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My angry happy cleaned but still wants MORE.

This model has reversible blades but after a years working hard they are still sharp. 

 

20 Kilo + of Kg, snapper teasers hopefully soon

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After visiting Panga, I loved the idea of Mr Angry

 

I bought mine mainly for my mully/ beach fishing so mainly not to feed the seagulls.

 

But this is a batch of whiting / general that I knocked up using yabbies both cooked and green, shrimp,crab,cray,pillies,squid, chook crumbs and pellets with a dash of tuna oil.

 

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This is then frozen in pvc tube that been cut to suit my burley pot

 

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Now just have to go fishing to try it out, hopefully one day

 

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Pick this masport up with reversible blades and a 2hp motor $75

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